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Old 09-04-2019 | 12:27 PM
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Old 09-04-2019 | 12:34 PM
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I can't stop face-palming.

I mean... if the non-Turbos can have turbos, I guess it stands to reason that the Turbos can come without turbos. Nothing means anything anymore.
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Old 09-04-2019 | 12:34 PM
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Well there goes that...

I am on the waitlist and was informed they should be starting around $85k, I know that it is fairly common for manufacturer's to start releasing their fully optioned models first, but was not expecting this type of pricing.

I'm on standby.
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Old 09-04-2019 | 12:36 PM
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F!cking fail.
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Old 09-04-2019 | 12:37 PM
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OK, so they’ll make about 1500 of these a year. I am worried for Germany. It seems like they won’t be competitive in this century, still clutching to diesel for volume. The most clueless part of that car (there are many) is putting 2 identical center screens — why not just put one big f******* screen? Wow. I am just astounded.

The options sheet is disappointing. $600 for cabin sound. Why the hell does it need a sport chrono option? It just makes no sense. It’s not an internal combustion vehicle! Did anyone tell them?!
Old 09-04-2019 | 12:38 PM
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Panamera .2 EV (Taycan) Turbo $150,900
Panamera Turbo $153,000

Panamera .2 EV (Taycan) 4S $103,000 (projected)
Panamera 4S $105,000

Add in options and I bet a decent Taycan 4S is $120,000. After a short bit of time with discount you're looking at something like $110,000.

Basically, 2x the price of a Model 3 Performance for a car without the supercharger network and arguably inferior tech.
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Old 09-04-2019 | 12:42 PM
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Why the hell does it need a sport chrono option? It just makes no sense. It’s not an internal combustion vehicle! Did anyone tell them?!
I don't understand this. I mean... it's a clock? What's that got to do with the motor?

I know that in some models Sport Chrono comes with some stuff that affects how it drives but consider the GT cars. It's just a clock and gives you some lap timer software and stuff. That's all perfectly applicable to the Taycan.
Old 09-04-2019 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Weasel
I don't understand this. I mean... it's a clock? What's that got to do with the motor?

I know that in some models Sport Chrono comes with some stuff that affects how it drives but consider the GT cars. It's just a clock and gives you some lap timer software and stuff. That's all perfectly applicable to the Taycan.
From my perspective, an analog quartz watch seems extremely out of place in a vehicle with 3-4 screens being the rest of the controls. Maybe if the clock face was another lcd screen it would fit the theme.

I guess I don't really care because after seeing this absolute disaster of a reveal I now have zero intention of purchasing one. Not only did it hit the low mark on range I expected it to hit based on the numbers I saw from the eTron, but they also bumped the price about $25,000 higher than I expected.
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Originally Posted by Wild Weasel
I don't understand this. I mean... it's a clock? What's that got to do with the motor?

I know that in some models Sport Chrono comes with some stuff that affects how it drives but consider the GT cars. It's just a clock and gives you some lap timer software and stuff. That's all perfectly applicable to the Taycan.
They are missing the market. They need to include ACC Innodrive as standard. None of these ridiculous options exist on other cars or are needed. They need to start thinking like the car is a software platform, and not a hardware platform. That’s what a damn EV is! None of this stuff should have an added cost.

And I can’t think how stupid those screens will look in 5 years because they are hopelessly dated today. It’s damn shame they can’t update them or do something more creative.
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Old 09-04-2019 | 12:50 PM
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I think I am getting my deposit back...
They are going to sell like hotcakes but honestly not the value price point I was imagining.. They obviously did their market research and went for it. They're going to make a lot of money...
In the meantime, model 3 gives me everything I need from an electric car for now...in addition to instant acceleration and decent handling and traction, it has an excellent self-driving feature (yes I know, can't rely on it all the time) but it makes stop and go traffic no longer a chore and that all I need it to do for me.
For the fun stuff, still have to go to ICE, no matter how good the synthetic sound generators get...
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Old 09-04-2019 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by catdog2
I think I am getting my deposit back...
They are going to sell like hotcakes but honestly not the value price point I was imagining.. They obviously did their market research and went for it. They're going to make a lot of money...
In the meantime, model 3 gives me everything I need from an electric car for now...
I think you're wrong. I don't think these are going to sell well at all.

...but I guess the opportunity for them to release a cheaper model that will sell is still there.
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Originally Posted by westwest888
OK, so they’ll make about 1500 of these a year. I am worried for Germany. It seems like they won’t be competitive in this century, still clutching to diesel for volume. The most clueless part of that car (there are many) is putting 2 identical center screens — why not just put one big f******* screen? Wow. I am just astounded.

The options sheet is disappointing. $600 for cabin sound. Why the hell does it need a sport chrono option? It just makes no sense. It’s not an internal combustion vehicle! Did anyone tell them?!
You're astounded and 1,500 is your production estimate? Bookmarked.
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You may be right but I think there is pent up demand for an electric car with a nice interior and Porsche-type options... Time will tell...
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Originally Posted by catdog2
You may be right but I think there is pent up demand for an electric car with a nice interior and Porsche-type options... Time will tell...
You could be right too

...but to me this car is a huge disappointment.
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500$ for Porsche electric sport sound!? WTF!??
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