To some extent this will fix itself over time. Motivated landlords could easily add power outlets for their tenants. Condos... homeowners associations can be so politically dense, that some states (California is one) have had to pass laws requiring them to allow reasonable accommodation for EV-driving residents.

This is what is frustrating about Californias push for H2. They are spending 10s of millions of dollars subsidizing a few very high priced H2 stations - where they could be subsidizing LOTs of DC fast charging for the same dinero. Basically all that gas station needs is 3-phase power, and it is like $40k/stall for the DC fast charger. But you really want them near shopping centers, not as much traditional gas stations. That way one can overlap other activities while charging.

Sounds like you did fine! We've taken a few overnight trips in my Model 3 where I though I would need a few minutes of Supercharging on the return trip. However with overnight destination charging, we avoided the need for it.

There is a hotel I've often stayed at in Los Angeles. However as of the last time I stayed there, they hadn't installed any destination charging. Since my Model 3 order was imminent, I spent some time talking with the manager about it. Pointed out that a number of his competitors already offer destination charging. Eventually they'll get it - if they haven't already.

 

Hydrogen at commercial scale is made from fossil fuels - and are grossly inefficient from a well to wheel analysis - fuel-cell vehicles are a thinly veiled Fossil Fuel plays…it's been proven to be 3x more efficient to simply use the electricity in a BEV than use the same amount of electricity used to make the H2 - it's just not a good idea, except as maybe a replacement for ICE based vehicles where you need the advantages of ICE fuel density without the emissions (jet aeroplanes for example)...but as personal transportation H2 is actually almost worse than efficient gasoline cars.

 

Tesla will always have better software (OTA update) and autonomy.

Porsche is a niche elitist brand that charges you on a million options. Some ppl are just not into this brand.

I personally just want 992 GTS to pick up girls. Daily i'll probably buy a Tesla.

 

range anxiety with Tesla? LMAO. What will you do with Taycan? you wont find a whole lot of charging stations

 

How common? My friend's N63 engine is still running fine.
One thing that is consistent is the oil leaks over 100k miles.

And let me know how you feel when you need to replace the central display in the Tesla for $3k-$5k. How is that different from a turbo replacement?



Reliability survey of owners with cars less than 4 years old. 2018 https://www.whatcar.com/news/2018-wh...-survey/n17798
This survey isn't perfect, but gives some impressions.

Toyota Yaris, not one reported any issues

Least reliable car in the Tesla Model 3 category (which includes BMW 3 series; Model 3 is not on the list since this is in UK) was Mercedes C class, 30% of owners reported issues.
Most were back on the road within a week, though, and only a few owners had to pay for repairs.
Reliability score (factored in how much cars cost to repair and how long they were off the road for):
BMW 3 Series (2012-present) 96.6%
Mercedes-Benz C-Class (2014-present) 83.1%

Mercedes E class: most reliable in its class. Reliability score: 92.4%
BMW 5 series, 31% of owners reported faults. Two-thirds remained on the road and most were fixed for free. Reliability score: 91.6%

BMW X1 (2015-present) Reliability score 92.3%

BMW X5 (2013-present) Reliability score 98.3%
only 10% of diesel examples developed a problem, with these split evenly between the engine, fuel system and wheels/tyres (all 3%). All cars remained driveable and were fixed for free in less than a week.

Range Rover (2013-present) Reliability score 67.3%
Half of the Range Rover owners who completed the survey told us their car had a fault. Non-engine electrics were the most common issue, while a worrying 17% of cars had suspension problems. Nearly a third of cars were undriveable and two-thirds were off the road for more than a week.

The Ford Edge is on a similar level, with 54% presenting a problem.

BMW 2 Series Active Tourer (2014-present) Reliability score 94.5%

Nissan Leaf (2011-2017) Reliability score 99.7%
No mechanical issues were reported by owners – only minor bodywork issues that were resolved the same day and fixed for free under warranty.

The Toyota Yaris Hybrid couldn’t quite replicate the clean slate of its petrol counterpart when it comes to reliability. However, only 14% had a fault and the problem areas were all minor; 7% concerned non-engine electrics, 4% bodywork and another 4% the fuel system. All cars were back on the road the same day and were fixed for free.

A mere 12% of Mitsubishi Outlander PHEVs experienced a fault, and the majority of those (8%) were with the non-engine electrics. More than two-thirds of problems were sorted out the same day and almost all remedial work was covered by the warranty.

BMW i3 (2013-present) 91.0%
Almost a third of BMW i3s were faulty. Bodywork caused the most trouble (12%), ahead of suspension, air-con and sat-nav (all 6%). Most cars were fixed within a week, and all of them for free.

Least reliable: Tesla Model S - 50.9%
41% of the Tesla Model S cars owned by those who responded to the survey had faults. Issues reported by owners included bent seat frames, broken door handles and parking sensor failures. Just over half of the cars were out of action for at least a week and some fixes cost more than £1500.


I have the impression that these Model S cars haven't reach 60k miles yet which is the life span of the drive train. Some cars in other countries are on their 3rd motor at 200k miles. Also no half shaft issues reported here which is quite common in other countries.

I also suggest watching Tesla Bjorn's "Model X P90DL issues after 15 months and 120k km/75k mi"
Soon after he made that video the car needed a new HV battery and continued on with showing new problems. Charge port for example. Not only did it deplete the battery overnight but made annoying beeping until it was fixed, months later.
He has a newer video showing the car around recently: "Tesla Model X issues"


paranoidroid's friend have had 4+ repairs already in his 6 months of Model 3 ownership.

 

I rather believe in the $20B of investment than you, sorry.
In this country I'm visiting, 99% of cars are covered by Japanese and S Korean brands. over 80% are Toyotas. Maybe there is a market you don't know about.
And again, my hotel was running on the diesel generator for the whole day yesterday.

 

Tesla Bjorn's Model X had it replaced. Model 3 owners have reported high pitched noise. One sounded like a broken transmission. Half shafts are still an issue.

 

I bet you didn't read the article I linked.

 

So do you think Toyota is going to sell (or lease) lots of H2 cars to third world countries? If so, where is the H2 going to be produced?

Cool. Hotels guests can still charge their EVs! Meanwhile the gas station down the street can't pump gas (be it petrol or H2) due to the power outage.

One of the $2m+ California H2 stations is about two miles from my house. So in theory I wouldn't have much of a problem leasing a Mirai. But... sorry. I have no desire to do so. Besides, the styling of the Mirai is hideous and performance is meh at best.

 

There are several sources of hydrogen. One is natural gas or biogas from landfills. It can also be produced by electrolysis by separating water. And can be made using organic waste by gasification.

Toyota is investing in a technology that produces hydrogen by using air and sunlight. If they reach an efficiency 2x better than current solar cells (~20%), this technology could replace them and also fill cars. Fuel cells are at the efficiency of 60%. So at 40% solar *0.6 means 24% total efficiency. Anything better is a win over current solar panels.

So far we didn't run into refueling issues. Maybe if they run out of diesel. Cellphones also work well. No outage. And better coverage than in the US (on road trips).


I don't like the look of the Mirai either. But I'm very impressed with Toyota as a company and their ability of making cheap and reliable cars in mass scale. So if they believe in hydrogen, I do as well. One good thing is that it can be used in trucks, ships, airplanes and drones without the penalty of the battery weight. Mercedes has a hybrid fuel cell car (GLC F-Cell), which is the best of both world (assuming fuel cell stations are available, so not yet).

 

i did and it still makes no sense - and the emissions from reforming natural gas are equivalent to burning it - it’s not emission free - and it’s still fundamentally a fossil fuel play - like most of your postings you keep reading things and drawing the wrong conclusions - Toyota’s going to lose the bet

imsee fuel cell cell vehicles as a replacement for transportation where BEV doesn’t work - trucking and cargo - personal transportation is still more efficient and can be zero emission - fool-cell vehicles will never be zero emission!

 

and there it is from the linked article - it’s a different way to consume/burn fossil fuels! and still generates vast amounts of emissions which we are trying to reduce!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrog...on?wprov=sfti1

it still uses a lot of grid power per unit produced! heating things to 1100(C) is not cheap - and the power used could have equally been used to directly charge a battery with with only 3-5% efficiency loss

the fossil fuel industry loves hydrogen - or should we call them the hydrocarbon industry! they produce hydrogen and emit carbon by products, it’s the carbon byproducts we are trying to get rid of, and hydrogen does not do that.

well to wheel hydrogen still loses on efficiency and does nothing to reduce emissions. The ONLY way H2 is better is if you refine it from water, and the energy requirements to do that are vast and in-efficient - the only way in which H2 is nearly viable is to source from fossil fuels and do do conservation of matter and energy you are left with pretty much the same resulting by-products cause ya know conservation of matter...

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or about the same amount of CO2 as burning the fuel to begin with.

the goal is to reduce emissions - H2 simply moves it around the playing board - rearranging deck chairs

water based H2 or BEV is the only solution that can be emission free with zero emission power generation - fossil fuel based H2 is still fossil fuel based transportation...and you simply can’t wash away the by products.

 

BTW: try this on for size…

I would not be opposed to the following scenario

Build vast quantities of renewable zero emission electricity production - I mean built A LOT - over size and over capacity - we can do it we simply lack the political will - build vast solar arrays producing billions of giga-watts of power....hydro, solar, wind, wave, nuclear - what have you…the problem with renewables is "storage" - what to do with all this capacity at "noon on Tuesday"…too much power and no place to go…

use this ample oversupply of electricity and make H2 from water in vast quantities, converting this ample excess of electricity to a form of stored energy, more importantly transportable and dense stored energy…

now bring in the Fuel-cell based transportation systems and you've go something that could actually work - overall efficiency be dammed because if the power comes from renewable sources the loss is pointless if we simply build the system and then forget about the original cost to build it - once we HAVE vast supplies of energy from zero emissions sources the fact that we're "wasting" it can be swallowed....

in this scenario - emission free power producing emission free H2 and then using that H2 to buzz to the grocery store in an emission free vehicle - bring on the Fuelcell vehicles, the technology is wicked cool and a triumph of science and engineering, it's just sooooo cool - it really really is!

Make electricity ample and cheap, stop caring about the original costs - we could do it for the cost of a few major military institutions and we seem to be able to waste money that way - why not waste some money on making electricity so cheap, plentiful and zero emission that it doesn't matter how we use it?

H2 from water for a fuel cell vehicle - bring it on!
H2 from fossil fuels is simply missing the point and is just more of the same.

 

That does sound like a good idea. I doubt that executives at Toyota care much about the environment -- other than their vehicles passing regulations. Automakers can't be counted on to pick the best fuel source for their vehicles based on origin of the fuel, without outside direction.
Hydrogen-fuel vehicles are a much better idea than BEVs, but the development of water-generated H_2 is important -- powered by renewable energy sources.

 

Man, your head is buried so far in the sand, I'm not even going to bother refuting what you say.

Nowhere did I say Tesla's were perfect. But your cherry-picked statistics on BMW's reliability are far from reality. You can believe what you want to believe, but if that's what you believe, well, so be it.