Cayman R value
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I know what a lot of cars are worth. I'm asking about this car in particular because it seems like the value has been hovering at the same point for a while with the new car out and the talk of possibly an R version I'm thinking they may be about to take a dump. I figured since you guys on this forum are pretty hardcore that some of you might be willing to share a few theories.
I hear what you are saying, it's just that I'm not sure a 2 year old cayman can stay at roughly $65k value. I'm only considering this over an 07 gt3 because I know it's going to be a lot easier to drive and may possibly more fun at the track. Otherwise the gt3 is definitely much less likely to drop in value, in all reality they're actually going up.
While they depreciate at a slower rate, those cars will drop in value just like every other car, at least for the next several years. Beyond that, it's difficult to say. The only reason the value is holding right now is because there's nothing else to buy currently. As much as I love the sound of the mezger and the interaction of a manual, the inevitable coolant hose failures, centerlock/variocam issues will give anybody pause when it comes to owning one of those out of their warranty period.Perhaps an example that is never driven would be worth something in the future, but who wants to buy a car and never drive it?
Last edited by orthojoe; Aug 5, 2013 at 01:46 PM.
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...Is it OK to compare the Cayman R resale value to the Spyder? If so then I would expect a slight drop since the Spyder's are now 2-3 years old and the R is still only about 1 year old (MY at least).
IMO the Cayman R and BS are "keepers" and will always be at the top of the market when compared to your run of the mill non special edition Boxster/Cayman, 911. That being said unless you are on a list to get one of the first cars I don't think there is anywhere for the cars to go in value except down, and with the 991 I think there is a ton of the "down" still left.
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IMO the Cayman R and BS are "keepers" and will always be at the top of the market when compared to your run of the mill non special edition Boxster/Cayman, 911. That being said unless you are on a list to get one of the first cars I don't think there is anywhere for the cars to go in value except down, and with the 991 I think there is a ton of the "down" still left.
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Once the 981S has been on the streets for a full year, Cayman R prices will take a dive.
Because of the top, and its limited pool of buyers, the Boxster Spyder will always be in a different category as far as resale pricing.
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I know what a lot of cars are worth. I'm asking about this car in particular because it seems like the value has been hovering at the same point for a while with the new car out and the talk of possibly an R version I'm thinking they may be about to take a dump. I figured since you guys on this forum are pretty hardcore that some of you might be willing to share a few theories.
I really see nothing in the R that says to me it will not lose value, too. Will it turn into a Cayman equivalent of a 911 Carrera RS 2.7? Only time will tell but my WAG is probably not.
The R is/was a radical (Porsche's term) vehicle.
My observation was the R was bought by most with a specific purpose in mind: tracking. Thus it has a limited market and used the market will be much smaller.
OTOH the attrition rate will be higher so those examples that do survive should see a less steep decline in value.
This does suggest that a good car with smart options -- more on this: Over a year ago I turned down a new R offered to me at a discount because it had no A/C: the original buyer bought it as a "track car" then changed his mind and left the dealer holding the bag -- a car that has not been tracked, a car that has been properly serviced and kept in good shape, bought used for a reasonable sum of money and then taken care of by its new owner, and not tracked or mod'd, will hold its value better than cars that were or are tracked or were or are mod'd.
Really, though, the above applies to any car. The R is no exception.
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All in all, any cayman boxster is a cheap car... 10% drop on it is nothing like on 150k+ cars. Yes, it could drop soon, but who cares? Drive it and enjoy it. If you don't sell, you're not down. Just swapping cars costs 10% here in California between taxes and reg. if you can't afford to loose 10k over the next few years, don't do it. But really, what is that? 3k per year? That's just the cost of driving any car!
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All in all, any cayman boxster is a cheap car... 10% drop on it is nothing like on 150k+ cars. Yes, it could drop soon, but who cares? Drive it and enjoy it. If you don't sell, you're not down. Just swapping cars costs 10% here in California between taxes and reg. if you can't afford to loose 10k over the next few years, don't do it. But really, what is that? 3k per year? That's just the cost of driving any car!
These are the cars on the Mannheim auction report, notice the dates.
8/5/12 peridot 14k $69k
9/20/12 peridot 10k $66k
12/6/12 white 7k $64250
1/10/13 peridot 6k $63k
6/6/13 peridot 2k $64k
7/17/13 white 3k $66250
Peridot I think is the money color, Obviously can't see equipment in these cars, some possibly could be ceramic, plus, plus, plus.
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No Sports Bucket seats in the CaymanS, per OrthJoe.
Any idea why not? Seems weird considering their high likelihood of track use and that Porsche has been offering these seats in new cars for a while. (Is it only in that car, or in all [or many other] models that the Sports Buckets are MIA??
Any idea why not? Seems weird considering their high likelihood of track use and that Porsche has been offering these seats in new cars for a while. (Is it only in that car, or in all [or many other] models that the Sports Buckets are MIA??
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The R wont fall. It will hold. That is the answer.
Why?
For one thing it is a bargain at 65k vs. a nicely equipped 2014 Cayman S that costs upper 80's if not 90k. Then, even if you do drop 88k on that car is "just" an S....not the special car with all the goodies of the Cayman R. Finally, as you most likely know, the newer Cayman's and Cayman S's are realllllly popular in PDK....a lot more than the 987 gen cars. So that means the cool ones most likely have PDK and many people on the CPO and PreOwned market (historically) dont like PDK as much as a 6 Speed. Especially those in the market for an R in the first place....so a 6 Speed Cayman R is the car to have in my mind (at the present time). Sport buckets just sweeten the deal. Low miles, and cool color combo do as well....
That is my $.02
Why?
For one thing it is a bargain at 65k vs. a nicely equipped 2014 Cayman S that costs upper 80's if not 90k. Then, even if you do drop 88k on that car is "just" an S....not the special car with all the goodies of the Cayman R. Finally, as you most likely know, the newer Cayman's and Cayman S's are realllllly popular in PDK....a lot more than the 987 gen cars. So that means the cool ones most likely have PDK and many people on the CPO and PreOwned market (historically) dont like PDK as much as a 6 Speed. Especially those in the market for an R in the first place....so a 6 Speed Cayman R is the car to have in my mind (at the present time). Sport buckets just sweeten the deal. Low miles, and cool color combo do as well....
That is my $.02
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Here is one:
http://www.stevenscreekporsche.com/d...-10527223.html
My 6-speed R seems to me to be a well sorted out car. No electric steering/ electronic e-brake nonsense. No PDK long term concerns. Gen II engine seems bullet proof at this point. By simply swapping the rubber for the rubber that comes stock on GT3s (MPSC) I seem to be able to give MUCH more powerful 911s a run for the money.
I don't buy cars as an investment, and as far as being "track ready" is concerned, I am not sure what that means. They don't drive themselves.
http://www.stevenscreekporsche.com/d...-10527223.html
My 6-speed R seems to me to be a well sorted out car. No electric steering/ electronic e-brake nonsense. No PDK long term concerns. Gen II engine seems bullet proof at this point. By simply swapping the rubber for the rubber that comes stock on GT3s (MPSC) I seem to be able to give MUCH more powerful 911s a run for the money.
I don't buy cars as an investment, and as far as being "track ready" is concerned, I am not sure what that means. They don't drive themselves.
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R's are already dropping in value. Sports cars in general drop values in the fall bottoming in the winter and picking back up in the spring. Now is the best time to buy if you want the worst resale.
Fall begins in 1 month. It makes absolutely NO SENSE buying one of these cars for a short period of time. They aren't collector cars do not the move off lots quickly. The only thing this will accomplish is putting plenty of scratch in a dealer's pocket.
Fall begins in 1 month. It makes absolutely NO SENSE buying one of these cars for a short period of time. They aren't collector cars do not the move off lots quickly. The only thing this will accomplish is putting plenty of scratch in a dealer's pocket.
