Spyder Depreciation
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Well, at least once. As in the photo shoot for the Ebay listing. And from the looks of it, they didn't attached it right to the red hooks in the rear. There is some additional red 'tape' or something that can be seen in that general area. I am sure that is one of the items that needs to be cleaned up, as you have stated. But overall, it looks like a great buy to me! Good luck with it. Saludos, z356 (currently in beautiful Colorado)
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That is the spirit! Keep it up. Me, I am such an **** compulsive sort that I'll probably put the top up at each stop to keep 'dust' off the nice Carrera Red leather interior. My '12 is scheduled for production in late July and should be here in late August (we hope). It takes all types...but at least we are all in the same Spyder family! z356
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That is the spirit! Keep it up. Me, I am such an **** compulsive sort that I'll probably put the top up at each stop to keep 'dust' off the nice Carrera Red leather interior. My '12 is scheduled for production in late July and should be here in late August (we hope). It takes all types...but at least we are all in the same Spyder family! z356
Congrats on the Spyder purchases guys, they are absolutely amazing cars! I just got back from a nice evening drive and feel totally refreshed.
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Nice old topic to dig up...
I have been looking at 987 spyder prices for over a year now and it seems the depreciation has stopped in early 2015.
The cheapest car for sale in Europe is € 64.500 asking price. In 2015 i have seen spyders for around 55.000.
How do the spyder values develop in the US?
I have been looking at 987 spyder prices for over a year now and it seems the depreciation has stopped in early 2015.
The cheapest car for sale in Europe is € 64.500 asking price. In 2015 i have seen spyders for around 55.000.
How do the spyder values develop in the US?
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Nice old topic to dig up...
I have been looking at 987 spyder prices for over a year now and it seems the depreciation has stopped in early 2015.
The cheapest car for sale in Europe is € 64.500 asking price. In 2015 i have seen spyders for around 55.000.
How do the spyder values develop in the US?
I have been looking at 987 spyder prices for over a year now and it seems the depreciation has stopped in early 2015.
The cheapest car for sale in Europe is € 64.500 asking price. In 2015 i have seen spyders for around 55.000.
How do the spyder values develop in the US?
I can't say that I have changed my opinion of the car even after 5 years of ownership. It's incredibly focused on every aspect of driving and never fails to leave an impression on all of your senses. I can't wait to try mine on the SoCal canyon roads!
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The one factor that will also be an issue for depreciation/appreciation is the next generation of Boxster, and how well it compares to or exceeds the current models. In addition, if they eventually build a Boxster Spyder based on the next generation Boxster that could also help or hurt values of current Spyders.
The short term depreciation curve (3 years) will depend entirely on the next generation car. If the new car is drop dead gorgeous, with more power and lighter weight, the 987 Spyder will not be anything special despite its low production numbers. Also there is the question whether we will see a 981 Spyder; personally I think there will be one, given the success of the current car.
a) whether Porsche comes out with a "718" Spyder (i.e. 982 generation), and, if so
b) whether it has a turbo 4 or a flat 6.
If there is no "next gen" Spyder, then the 981 Spyder will go down as a very special car - - limited numbers, one-year production only, last flat six NA drop-top? - - and my bet would be on solid value retention if not some appreciation down the road.
If there is a next gen Spyder and it's a turbo 4, I think older guys and the purists will still keep 981 Spyder values high and depreciation in check.
A next gen Spyder with a NA flat 6 is clearly the worst case scenario for 981 Spyder value retention. Doesn't mean they won't hold their value better than most - - just means appreciation is more unlikely IMO.
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Ok a few thoughts and a couple of questions for the board.
1. Current 987 Averages: Cost: $58k Mileage 18,000 [Asking prices]
2. Now that we know the 718s will be flat 4's - if the Spyders follow suit, I see the predecessors definitely benefiting from a collectibility stand point.
3. I know GT Purely came out with an Article, mentioned here within the forums, but did the tone of that article or any other articles genuinely separate the 981 from the 987 as the superior all around car?
4. 2nd Question: I have a feeling we could be looking back at both Spyders in a way we currently look at the 89' and 94' Speedsters; both highly collectible and rare but which will end up being the more desirable one down the road?
5. - LAST QUESTION - Do we know if the 981 Spyder build will, for a fact, be less than the 891-ish North American production estimate for 987 Spyders? Despite the 1 vs. 2 year run.
1. Current 987 Averages: Cost: $58k Mileage 18,000 [Asking prices]
2. Now that we know the 718s will be flat 4's - if the Spyders follow suit, I see the predecessors definitely benefiting from a collectibility stand point.
3. I know GT Purely came out with an Article, mentioned here within the forums, but did the tone of that article or any other articles genuinely separate the 981 from the 987 as the superior all around car?
4. 2nd Question: I have a feeling we could be looking back at both Spyders in a way we currently look at the 89' and 94' Speedsters; both highly collectible and rare but which will end up being the more desirable one down the road?
5. - LAST QUESTION - Do we know if the 981 Spyder build will, for a fact, be less than the 891-ish North American production estimate for 987 Spyders? Despite the 1 vs. 2 year run.
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Agree wholeheartedly that 981 Spyder values will be affected by: a) whether Porsche comes out with a "718" Spyder (i.e. 982 generation), and, if so b) whether it has a turbo 4 or a flat 6. If there is no "next gen" Spyder, then the 981 Spyder will go down as a very special car - - limited numbers, one-year production only, last flat six NA drop-top? - - and my bet would be on solid value retention if not some appreciation down the road. If there is a next gen Spyder and it's a turbo 4, I think older guys and the purists will still keep 981 Spyder values high and depreciation in check. A next gen Spyder with a NA flat 6 is clearly the worst case scenario for 981 Spyder value retention. Doesn't mean they won't hold their value better than most - - just means appreciation is more unlikely IMO.
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For those that have never experienced the 987 Spyder without restriction I would not make the assumption that the smaller engine output makes it a lesser car. There is something truly unique about the driving experience, a connection with the driver that is hard to explain until you really experience it at 8/10th's plus. I have said it over and over but I'll say it again, it's as if it is hardwired to your brain and it makes you feel like a superhero driver.
Keep in mind that this thread is a few years old before the 981 Spyder was introduced and here we are speculating if a 981.2 Spyder will be introduced and how it will be configured.
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The reality is that both are spectacularly special and those of us that own one or both are very fortunate.
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Ok a few thoughts and a couple of questions for the board.
1. Current 987 Averages: Cost: $58k Mileage 18,000 [Asking prices]
2. Now that we know the 718s will be flat 4's - if the Spyders follow suit, I see the predecessors definitely benefiting from a collectibility stand point.
3. I know GT Purely came out with an Article, mentioned here within the forums, but did the tone of that article or any other articles genuinely separate the 981 from the 987 as the superior all around car?
4. 2nd Question: I have a feeling we could be looking back at both Spyders in a way we currently look at the 89' and 94' Speedsters; both highly collectible and rare but which will end up being the more desirable one down the road?
5. - LAST QUESTION - Do we know if the 981 Spyder build will, for a fact, be less than the 891-ish North American production estimate for 987 Spyders? Despite the 1 vs. 2 year run.
1. Current 987 Averages: Cost: $58k Mileage 18,000 [Asking prices]
2. Now that we know the 718s will be flat 4's - if the Spyders follow suit, I see the predecessors definitely benefiting from a collectibility stand point.
3. I know GT Purely came out with an Article, mentioned here within the forums, but did the tone of that article or any other articles genuinely separate the 981 from the 987 as the superior all around car?
4. 2nd Question: I have a feeling we could be looking back at both Spyders in a way we currently look at the 89' and 94' Speedsters; both highly collectible and rare but which will end up being the more desirable one down the road?
5. - LAST QUESTION - Do we know if the 981 Spyder build will, for a fact, be less than the 891-ish North American production estimate for 987 Spyders? Despite the 1 vs. 2 year run.
3. I haven't counted how many articles have come down decidedly in favor of one car being "superior" over the over. Many point out the differences and claim both are desirable for different reasons. Certainly several have preferred the 987 finding that it has a certain "purity of focus" which may have been diminished to some extent in the 981. Others just outright claim the 981 is the superior car pointing to better performance numbers, top requiring fewer steps to lower, etc., etc.
4. Tough call. May depend, as noted in prior posts, on whether there is a next gen Spyder and, if so, whether it is a NA 6 or turbo 4. Pretty sure we know it won't be a turbo 6 because that engine type apparently won't fit in the car.
5. Unknown. Final numbers for the 981 will likely be below 891 units based on the current count and projections, but by how many is uncertain.
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Want a Porsche that will appreciate? Try 356's or 993's. An example:
http://sloancars.com/6001/1998-993-c...rey-258-miles/
This car is new and can be bought for, let's say "over $300K." Now, THAT'S appreciation!
http://sloancars.com/6001/1998-993-c...rey-258-miles/
This car is new and can be bought for, let's say "over $300K." Now, THAT'S appreciation!
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Can you imagine what a spyder will do in 15-20 years from now when everyone is dying for a NA flat six Porsche special model??
993 have also depreciated, even the 4s
993 have also depreciated, even the 4s