What Non-PORSCHE Motors Will Fit in a 944?
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What Non-PORSCHE Motors Will Fit in a 944?
I have an extra 1987 944 and I want to put an engine in it. What non Porsche engines fit in the engine bay. I have seen the ls1,ls2 engines in them but what else? Do you use a rear end and how do you bolt that up? Is everything custom?
I would have to find a crashed car to get everything for a cheaper price.
I would have to find a crashed car to get everything for a cheaper price.
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http://www.renegadehybrids.com/
http://www.renegadehybrids.com/944/LT-1/LT-1.html
How about a Grand National Engine?
http://members.aol.com/grandnational944/944s-2.htm
http://www.renegadehybrids.com/944/LT-1/LT-1.html
How about a Grand National Engine?
http://members.aol.com/grandnational944/944s-2.htm
#3
I'm surprised no one has installed some cheap engines from Japan as soon as a car is 5 years old it becomes very expensive to own it and most are junked in perfect condition. Something like the 2gtz (can't remember marking - the MR-2 turbo engine), or the sr20det (Nissan Silvia turbo) or for N/A purposes a b18c5 (Intergra Type R) or h22a (Prelude vtec). These engines would be more than enought to motivate a 944 chassis. But then there's the putting a japanese engine in a german car...why's that so different from a domestic v8 getting stuffed in there too?
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Dwizle (06-05-2021)
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nearly all engine swaps use either a stock n/a or 951 "rear end" (transmission, diff & rear suspension), although I have seen photos of a complete Corvette C5 rear suspension & transmission transplanted into a 944. The n/a ring & pinion gear is too weak to take any kind of serious power levels (even 951 power would be too much), bu the 951 gearbox should be stout enough for at least 300-350hp.
The small block chevy swaps are popular simply because the engines are (relatively) cheap, compact and produce good power. Any overhead cam V8 or V6 will likely be too wide to fit (especially 90* V's). You can quickly rule out any flat-4's or flat-6 motors, as they'll be much too wide. This leaves pretty much inline 4's, possibly inline 5's, or maybe even a small inline 6. I'd also like to see someone explore the VW VR6 motor.
The small block chevy swaps are popular simply because the engines are (relatively) cheap, compact and produce good power. Any overhead cam V8 or V6 will likely be too wide to fit (especially 90* V's). You can quickly rule out any flat-4's or flat-6 motors, as they'll be much too wide. This leaves pretty much inline 4's, possibly inline 5's, or maybe even a small inline 6. I'd also like to see someone explore the VW VR6 motor.
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I've heard it said that most of the high-revving japanese motors are too tall to fit in our engine bay. Remember... while Porsche was able to fit a SOHC and DOHC motor into the engine bay, they had to tilt the engine 45* to make it fit (and the DOHC motors are VERY close to the underside of the hood).
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I thought about a 4g63 turbo motor from a 1995-1999 Mitsubishi eclipse, But that has a front wheel drive(GST) or AWD transmission(GSX). How would that work far a RWD car? A supra, skyline, and silvia motors would be nice but are too expensive. I really want a 4G63 motor capable of 300 hp easily.
How would it hook up to make a rwd 944?
How would it hook up to make a rwd 944?
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I thought about a 4g63 turbo motor from a 1995-1999 Mitsubishi eclipse, But that has a front wheel drive(GST) or AWD transmission(GSX). How would that work far a RWD car? A supra, skyline, and silvia motors would be nice but are too expensive. I really want a 4G63 motor capable of 300 hp easily.
How would it hook up to make a rwd 944?
How would it hook up to make a rwd 944?
#15
The VW vr6 seems like a good candidate, being a 6 cylinder engine that is not much bigger than a 4-banger. My brother has one in his GTI, and that is not the stock motor - they never had 6 cylinders in the mk2 gti so putting one in makes it nice and awesome. But the engine is pretty tall.
But WTF. A vr6 will cost you, how much? And the 2.8L 12v version is only good for 178 hp. Come on, every single type of 944 engine except the NA makes more than that. You can buy a 944S2 engine for like $3k and you have a bolt-in engine good for 208 hp. Whatever engine you use, you'll want it to be a turbo, so why not buy a 951 engine? I bought one for $1.5k. And then you'll want to buy a 951 tranny, 951 suspension, 951 brakes, eventually 951 body, etc. So just buy a 951.
I don't see what the problem is in just making custom motor mount brackets that lean the engine over. If you use an engine that mounts in a similar way as the 944 engine, then you can just make custom brackets so it mounts in the same location, and in a similar orientation as the stock engine. I'm just trying to use my imagination, I haven't seen this done.
I have seen a 911 flat-6 in a 944 though.
But WTF. A vr6 will cost you, how much? And the 2.8L 12v version is only good for 178 hp. Come on, every single type of 944 engine except the NA makes more than that. You can buy a 944S2 engine for like $3k and you have a bolt-in engine good for 208 hp. Whatever engine you use, you'll want it to be a turbo, so why not buy a 951 engine? I bought one for $1.5k. And then you'll want to buy a 951 tranny, 951 suspension, 951 brakes, eventually 951 body, etc. So just buy a 951.
I don't see what the problem is in just making custom motor mount brackets that lean the engine over. If you use an engine that mounts in a similar way as the 944 engine, then you can just make custom brackets so it mounts in the same location, and in a similar orientation as the stock engine. I'm just trying to use my imagination, I haven't seen this done.
I have seen a 911 flat-6 in a 944 though.