Why did Porsche limit the 992.2 Turbo S to 701 Hp ?
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Why did Porsche limit the 992.2 Turbo S to 701 Hp ?
Porsche knows how to make Hybrid and pure EV HP. Taycan Turbo GT 1019 HP. Heck , even the Cayenne Turbo Hybrid is 729 HP.
Does not add up with the ZR1 and ZR1x both over 1000 HP and the new 992.2 comes in at 701 HP after adding the complexity of the Hybrid system.
I wonder if they are going to drop something special like a Turbo S GT at 950 HP a few months after the 992.2 is released ?????
Does not add up with the ZR1 and ZR1x both over 1000 HP and the new 992.2 comes in at 701 HP after adding the complexity of the Hybrid system.
I wonder if they are going to drop something special like a Turbo S GT at 950 HP a few months after the 992.2 is released ?????
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Porsche knows how to make Hybrid and pure EV HP. Taycan Turbo GT 1019 HP. Heck , even the Cayenne Turbo Hybrid is 729 HP.
Does not add up with the ZR1 and ZR1x both over 1000 HP and the new 992.2 comes in at 701 HP after adding the complexity of the Hybrid system.
I wonder if they are going to drop something special like a Turbo S GT at 950 HP a few months after the 992.2 is released ?????
Does not add up with the ZR1 and ZR1x both over 1000 HP and the new 992.2 comes in at 701 HP after adding the complexity of the Hybrid system.
I wonder if they are going to drop something special like a Turbo S GT at 950 HP a few months after the 992.2 is released ?????
Zr1 is a fantastic car but it's not all about HP. It barely beat the 3rs at the ring and it has half the HP the ZR1 has. I rarely see porsche owners at the drag strip too and I assume Porsche is not all about 1/4 times.
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They probably don't need to, I don't think people are abandoning the 992 Turbo S en masse for the Zr1.
Zr1 is a fantastic car but it's not all about HP. It barely beat the 3rs at the ring and it has half the HP the ZR1 has. I rarely see porsche owners at the drag strip too and I assume Porsche is not all about 1/4 times.
Zr1 is a fantastic car but it's not all about HP. It barely beat the 3rs at the ring and it has half the HP the ZR1 has. I rarely see porsche owners at the drag strip too and I assume Porsche is not all about 1/4 times.
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Its not the HP, its the torque.
They kept the peak torque the same, so the PDK, driveline, clutches, etc do not need to be touched.
They opened up the torque curve over closer to redline to get more HP with the same peak torque.
The next generation will have more power, hopefully substantially more. However, it doesn't seem like the buyers of these Hybrid cars even care, so perhaps a subtle increase.
I wouldn't expect the TTS to ever come close to what the ZR1X can do. That is the duty of the GT2RS, if we ever see one.
They kept the peak torque the same, so the PDK, driveline, clutches, etc do not need to be touched.
They opened up the torque curve over closer to redline to get more HP with the same peak torque.
The next generation will have more power, hopefully substantially more. However, it doesn't seem like the buyers of these Hybrid cars even care, so perhaps a subtle increase.
I wouldn't expect the TTS to ever come close to what the ZR1X can do. That is the duty of the GT2RS, if we ever see one.
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Its not the HP, its the torque.
They kept the peak torque the same, so the PDK, driveline, clutches, etc do not need to be touched.
They opened up the torque curve over closer to redline to get more HP with the same peak torque.
The next generation will have more power, hopefully substantially more. However, it doesn't seem like the buyers of these Hybrid cars even care, so perhaps a subtle increase.
I wouldn't expect the TTS to ever come close to what the ZR1X can do. That is the duty of the GT2RS, if we ever see one.
They kept the peak torque the same, so the PDK, driveline, clutches, etc do not need to be touched.
They opened up the torque curve over closer to redline to get more HP with the same peak torque.
The next generation will have more power, hopefully substantially more. However, it doesn't seem like the buyers of these Hybrid cars even care, so perhaps a subtle increase.
I wouldn't expect the TTS to ever come close to what the ZR1X can do. That is the duty of the GT2RS, if we ever see one.
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I think it has more to do with the contact patch of the tire and what that would do to the overall balance and feel of the car. I think a typical driver would feel less confident with too much torque. With say 700lbft you'd be losing traction in both first and second gear which tops out around 80mph. Of course, with enough technology and driver assistance's to minimize torque in those gears that could be overcome; but then, do you really need 700lbft if its going to be reduced most of the time anyway?
I forgot to mention there are also heat, durability and diminishing returns with added torque. Reliability could be a concern as well.
I forgot to mention there are also heat, durability and diminishing returns with added torque. Reliability could be a concern as well.
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Few nuances being missed, Im no expert, but Ive cycled quite a few of these cars mentioned
2025 Cayenne Turbo E-hybrid to a 2026 Cayenne Turbo GT. From that one, I can tell you, more HP doesnt equal faster. Turbo GT far different and more agile car, but down nearly 100HP, youd hop in the Turbo GT any day of the week.
2022 911 Turbo, to 2025 911 Targa4GTS, I really think the .2 GTS felt faster than the .1 Turbo. And now .2 GTS to TurboS, granted I havent driven my Turbo S yet, its getting paint corrected and PPFd as we speak. But I suspect itll be nuts.
Lastly, the 729HP Cayenne, is an old school ZF tranny, and the 911 is still running the way better PDK even with hybridization.
Say all that to say, not as simple as one number on the spec sheet.
2022 911 Turbo, to 2025 911 Targa4GTS, I really think the .2 GTS felt faster than the .1 Turbo. And now .2 GTS to TurboS, granted I havent driven my Turbo S yet, its getting paint corrected and PPFd as we speak. But I suspect itll be nuts.
Lastly, the 729HP Cayenne, is an old school ZF tranny, and the 911 is still running the way better PDK even with hybridization.
Say all that to say, not as simple as one number on the spec sheet.
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Few nuances being missed, Im no expert, but Ive cycled quite a few of these cars mentioned
2025 Cayenne Turbo E-hybrid to a 2026 Cayenne Turbo GT. From that one, I can tell you, more HP doesnt equal faster. Turbo GT far different and more agile car, but down nearly 100HP, youd hop in the Turbo GT any day of the week.
2022 911 Turbo, to 2025 911 Targa4GTS, I really think the .2 GTS felt faster than the .1 Turbo. And now .2 GTS to TurboS, granted I havent driven my Turbo S yet, its getting paint corrected and PPFd as we speak. But I suspect itll be nuts.
Lastly, the 729HP Cayenne, is an old school ZF tranny, and the 911 is still running the way better PDK even with hybridization.
Say all that to say, not as simple as one number on the spec sheet.
2022 911 Turbo, to 2025 911 Targa4GTS, I really think the .2 GTS felt faster than the .1 Turbo. And now .2 GTS to TurboS, granted I havent driven my Turbo S yet, its getting paint corrected and PPFd as we speak. But I suspect itll be nuts.
Lastly, the 729HP Cayenne, is an old school ZF tranny, and the 911 is still running the way better PDK even with hybridization.
Say all that to say, not as simple as one number on the spec sheet.
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With only 3.7 liters and 6 cylinders, there isnt much room to push the power much higher without sacrificing reliability. I believe that the TTS will need to drastically increase displacement to keep up with the next wave of sports cars in its class
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Not really true, they can just do stronger rods and pistons, that engine will be fine, it holds tons of power now when modified.
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Yep. Plus the entire complexity of the Hybrid system only added 61Hp. Add 200 and it becomes interesting. 61 hp plus 200lbs of added weight is a bit uhhhh. Nice but not game changing. I bet a GT is coming. Possibly have to wait for the GT2RS for hyperdrive.
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I think a better question is why is the styling so far off. The Gen 1 is sublime and theyve ruined it. Having said that I'd take the ZR1. Porsche far too up themselves. In UK I have read they are only giving dealers 1 roadster SC a year so the usual VIP only BS.
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When you drive one you soon realise that it doesnt need any more power, what it has is more than enough. Whats more important is that its now great fun to drive and very entertaining. Feels very much like a GT product now.
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Porsche just ran the GT3 manthey at the ring and achieved a 6:45 which is faster than the Zr1x time. All with literally half the HP.
Just shows that not everything is about HP figures. You can achieve more with less.
Also, Zr1x weighs more than a standard C8 and as a result, had to add much larger brake disks and essentially had to reengineer the car to account for the increased weight.
So its not as simple as just increasing horsepower.
Just shows that not everything is about HP figures. You can achieve more with less.
Also, Zr1x weighs more than a standard C8 and as a result, had to add much larger brake disks and essentially had to reengineer the car to account for the increased weight.
So its not as simple as just increasing horsepower.