Bigoil

I have the chance for an allocation at msrp… and wondering if i should wait for the S or 4s to become available . I love the idea of building it exactly how i want it but here is my questions for the Gents

Does anyone find it weird that it has the same turbos as the 992 GTS and only makes 9hp more? It even has more boost..

I wondering how much more juice i could get with a tune when this becomes an option.


On another note it seems that the Calipers and Rotors are the same size as the 992 S now , I hated the smaller set up on the base and T… It just looks to small for the car..

I am coming for a 2020 992 s and trying to capture a good trade for my car and get something new.

thanks

momo360

If you want an S or 4S, i would say wait...if you look over at the Macan EV forums, you'll see a world of regrets. People ordered the 4, and then got upset when the 4S became available.

tbo12

I too am curious of the very modest horsepower bump on the base, and particularly why the larger (I assume) turbos did not yield any torque increase at all.

DamonsCarrera

It all comes down to lambda = 1. The new cars are basically an answer to requirements for reduced emissions. They added the 40kW MGU-K to the GTS so they could claim the new car is faster than the old, even though the ICE produces less specific power than the old one (same as the new Base model).

nyca

The base engine isn't lambda=1, is it? I thought that was only the T hybrid.

The Base is going to be a very popular trim in the .2.

Bigoil

I wonder if the numbers are understated but put out much more power… i would think it should be around 992 s hp stock..

fanboy

Depends on how long you’re willing to wait. I don’t see Porsche announcing an S model this season, so we’re talking mid-next year at the earliest.

momo360

Agreed, that's why i'm waiting to see some instrumented tests from Car and Driver, etc... sounds like it may be a while before we see those kind of reviews though.

DamonsCarrera

The German regulations requiring lambda = 1 cover all cars, not just specific ones.

Bigoil

thats what I was thinking

drcollie

I would grab an allocation for a Base model at MSRP instantly with no hesitation. The Base not only keeps your price reasonable, but is also the least-produced main-line model as it generates the least profit in the 911 line-up.

It will be a massive upgrade from an S2000, and all the car you need. You're going up 150 HP from your Honda, that's huge. In a track day HPDE event, 90% of the participants (Instructors included) cannot wring out a Base model Carrera to its maximum potential, it's a lot of car.

Go for it

momo360

The base 992.1 was already lambda = 1. The 992.1 GTS was ONLY running rich at WOT, but otherwise was also lambda = 1 all over the place.

Hunky

So the new 911 that we buy here in the states has this Lambda=1 because the Germans are forcing it on us.

DrKarlB

You know Porsche is a German company... ?
We choose to buy a German car with German regulations
Nothing is forced.... there are always Buick's and Chevrolets that won't have German regulations forced on you

Bigoil

No boss a 2020 992 S lol