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Old 06-28-2021, 12:02 AM
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Has anybody with a Cayenne Turbo requiring C40 oil had any recent experiences and can you confirm that C40 oil, part 000 043 210 93, Mobil 1 ESP X3 0W-40 was indeed used vs. other bulk oil?
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Originally Posted by 8378hjlafdljfads
Has anybody with a Cayenne Turbo requiring C40 oil had any recent experiences and can you confirm that C40 oil, part 000 043 210 93, Mobil 1 ESP X3 0W-40 was indeed used vs. other bulk oil?
I just had mine done on June 8th. I confirmed they had bulk C40 prior to making the appointment. In fact, I made my way to the maintenance bay and the mechanic showed me the laboratory oil analysis of the bulk oil. 👍🏼 The $9.70 bulk price is WAY better than the $33 / liter I paid for the individual bottles. 😃



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Old 07-04-2021, 01:31 PM
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I need to add 2 quarts of oil to my C GTS but can't source Mobil 1 ESP 0W-40 X3 (other than the local dealer). Has anyone tried Motul 8100 X-Clean Gen2 5W40? It's a C40 oil that's $50 for 5 liters and available on Amazon. See
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Old 07-04-2021, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dasams
I need to add 2 quarts of oil to my C GTS but can't source Mobil 1 ESP 0W-40 X3 (other than the local dealer). Has anyone tried Motul 8100 X-Clean Gen2 5W40? It's a C40 oil that's $50 for 5 liters and available on Amazon. See https://www.amazon.com/Motul-8100-X-...omotive&sr=1-6
Great find! You should be good to go. No need to worry when adding 5W40 to 0W40; you will have very slightly less cold flow during startup. Only an issue in extreme cold weather.

Here's a post from a Motul representative describing the release of the new oil last May 2020. Lots of good info in this thread regarding SAPS content effects on particulate filters. He also addresses how they modify oil formulations to prevent Low Speed Pre-Ignition.

Originally Posted by Motul
I wanted to post an update to say that our "gen2" versions of both 8100 X-cess 5W40 and 8100 X-clean 5W40 have started to ship to distributors and should arrive at most online retailers and dealers this summer.

Our primary reason for reformulating was due to new standards from BMW to meet their improved LL-01 and LL-04 standards on 2019+ vehicles, but it also gave us a chance to achieve the new Porsche C40 approval on our X-clean 5W40 gen2 product.

Full details on the launch can be found here: INTRODUCING 8100 X-CESS 5W40 GEN 2 AND X-CLEAN 5W40 GEN2

Here are the basics:

8100 X-cess 5W40 gen2 - will eventually phase out current product as it retains the same approvals (Porsche A40, VW 502 00 / 505 00, MB 229.5/226/5) but is an improved formula to retain the adjusted BMW LL-01 standard.
8100 X-clean 5W40 gen2 - new product is reformulated and has approvals for Porsche C40**, VW 511 00**, GM dexos2, MB, 229.52/226.5, and adjusted BMW LL-04 standard. Will exist alongside the "first gen" or current product as that formula offers Porsche A40 and VW 502 00 / 505 00 / 505 01. **new Porsche C40 and VW 511 00 standards are not backwards compatible.

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Originally Posted by dasams
I need to add 2 quarts of oil to my C GTS but can't source Mobil 1 ESP 0W-40 X3 (other than the local dealer). Has anyone tried Motul 8100 X-Clean Gen2 5W40? It's a C40 oil that's $50 for 5 liters and available on Amazon. See https://www.amazon.com/Motul-8100-X-...omotive&sr=1-6
Just a warning, I ordered this and what showed up was the old gen1 X-Clean which is just A40 spec. Sending it right back.

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Old 07-06-2021, 11:12 PM
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^^ Dang. Sorry to hear. I have not yet ordered but was hoping this could be a great solution. Plus it was only 115F here today so I really don’t need 0W-40 😲
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Well I stopped by my local dealer today, and to my surprise they had the proper Mobil1 X3 oil available by the liter in retail packaging for under $10 a piece. I picked up 5 to have on hand for top off and went merrily on my way.

The part number on the receipt was “0-W40-ESP” with description “0W40 ESP X3” and I confirmed on the bottle that it says X3 and C40 rating.

Interestingly, the bottles have a gray cap and look slightly different from others in this thread.

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Old 07-07-2021, 09:46 PM
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That’s fantastic news, Mech33. My dealer told me they had recently found a new source for C40 oil and that the price would soon drop; never expected it to be below ten bucks, though! This, of course, after I paid over $70 for two liters imported from Germany. 😩
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I called my local dealer Porsche Palm Springs and they also received a small amount of X3 oil. The price is $10.25 per qt and they only have four available.

Edit: I just got back from the dealer and, as noted in a post above, the label has changed in that the cap is now grey. Note that I've circled the X3 nomenclature and the C40 approval is on the back.



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Just got a call from dealer. My annual service scheduled for tomorrow is cancelled because they have no C40 oil. They have no idea when it will come in. Five others are also waiting on C40 oil.

So no chips to make them and no oil / parts to service them. How long until we go full Mad Max? 😫 I’m gonna go buy some more toilet paper.

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Old 11-09-2021, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Schnave
Just got a call from dealer. My annual service scheduled for tomorrow is cancelled because they have no C40 oil. They have no idea when it will come in. Five others are also waiting on C40 oil.

So no chips to make them and no oil / parts to service them. How long until we go full Mad Max? 😫 I’m gonna go buy some more toilet paper.
$20.00 CDN + taxes ($16.00USD) at my dealer and they had stock last time I checked.
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Originally Posted by Schnave
Just got a call from dealer. My annual service scheduled for tomorrow is cancelled because they have no C40 oil. They have no idea when it will come in. Five others are also waiting on C40 oil.

So no chips to make them and no oil / parts to service them. How long until we go full Mad Max? 😫 I’m gonna go buy some more toilet paper.
Not sure if in stock but here is a link.

https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/0w40m1espx3.html
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Originally Posted by radctt1
Not sure if in stock but here is a link.

https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/0w40m1espx3.html
Thanks for the advice, @kayjh. Called dealer and they were sold out but said I could bring my own oil if I could find it. Thanks to you, @radctt1, I called Suncoast and they said they have 180 bottles in stock @ 10.95 each. I ordered 12 bottles and they’re on the way.

Thanks to both of you for the help!

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Suncoast currently out of stock for C40 X3. Actually found it at local Auto zone to my surprise.





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