H&R Springs installed - First impressions and an unpleasant surprise
#1
H&R Springs installed - First impressions and an unpleasant surprise
Headed up to TAG Motorsports yesterday to get my H&R Springs installed on the old 911S. They are about an hour away from my office, and seeing as how the car isn't going to pay for itself I figured I'd chill in the lobby and get some work done while they did the install. Not a bad view if I do say so myself.
There were a few F1 tires on display next to me, might as well take a pic.
Time to get down to business! Here she is, flying high with no shoes on. Took a good 6 hours from start to finish, including alignment, test drive, etc.
When the tech took the battery cover out of the frunk area they found a big old rat nest by the passenger side shock mount! I couldn't freakin believe it! Here is a pic of what the nest was made out of. One day I couldn't find the red/black towel I had sitting on my golf bag in the garage, but now the mystery has been solved. After removing all the fibers and other misc ****, we looked around the area for chewed wires, and thankfully there were none! My next mission; rodent proof the garage!
So here she is in all her glory (wing up just for you, STG ). The pics aren't the greatest due to the lighting/shadows, but it's still a decent representation of how much lower it is. I have SPASM, so the springs gave it a 1" drop. I'm sure it will sit a tad lower once the springs have had time to settle, but overall I'm very happy with the result . Before the drop I could fit 2, almost 3, fingers between tire and fender. Now, only 1 finger.
The ride is a bit stiffer over bumps, but the road feel is definitely more noticeable which is exactly what I was hoping more. The connection between me, the car, and the road is right at the level I wanted. I'm very happy with the outcome, and would recommend these springs to anyone looking to tighten up their ride and add visual appeal.
There were a few F1 tires on display next to me, might as well take a pic.
Time to get down to business! Here she is, flying high with no shoes on. Took a good 6 hours from start to finish, including alignment, test drive, etc.
When the tech took the battery cover out of the frunk area they found a big old rat nest by the passenger side shock mount! I couldn't freakin believe it! Here is a pic of what the nest was made out of. One day I couldn't find the red/black towel I had sitting on my golf bag in the garage, but now the mystery has been solved. After removing all the fibers and other misc ****, we looked around the area for chewed wires, and thankfully there were none! My next mission; rodent proof the garage!
So here she is in all her glory (wing up just for you, STG ). The pics aren't the greatest due to the lighting/shadows, but it's still a decent representation of how much lower it is. I have SPASM, so the springs gave it a 1" drop. I'm sure it will sit a tad lower once the springs have had time to settle, but overall I'm very happy with the result . Before the drop I could fit 2, almost 3, fingers between tire and fender. Now, only 1 finger.
The ride is a bit stiffer over bumps, but the road feel is definitely more noticeable which is exactly what I was hoping more. The connection between me, the car, and the road is right at the level I wanted. I'm very happy with the outcome, and would recommend these springs to anyone looking to tighten up their ride and add visual appeal.
#7
Did TAG not recommend replacing the shocks with aftermarket to match the new springs? When using lowering springs your shock dampening will not match and it's a good idea to run a matched shock/spring setup such as a Bilstein setup such as this:
https://tagmotorsports.com/bilstein-...e-991-49216042
If your ride remains harsh, that's the reason.
https://tagmotorsports.com/bilstein-...e-991-49216042
If your ride remains harsh, that's the reason.
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#9
rat nest by the passenger side shock mount
#10
Thanks for the compliments guys
They are "tire stickers" whicht are made from a rubber material. There are permanent and semi-permanent options. Google search "tire stickers" and you will find a few companies that sell them.
No, I put it up on purpose to get a rise out of people here on the forum. semi inside joke i guess. FWIW I've got a TechArt Type II wing on order.
No, they did not, and I appreciate you sharing that info. I will look into the shocks.
Thx bud. When I heard the tech say "hey man, I think you had a rat make a nest in your car" I immediately thought about ObsessedGarage's story detailing the $10k worth of wiring damage! I got lucky in this case.
No, I put it up on purpose to get a rise out of people here on the forum. semi inside joke i guess. FWIW I've got a TechArt Type II wing on order.
Did TAG not recommend replacing the shocks with aftermarket to match the new springs? When using lowering springs your shock dampening will not match and it's a good idea to run a matched shock/spring setup such as a Bilstein setup such as this:
https://tagmotorsports.com/bilstein-...e-991-49216042
If your ride remains harsh, that's the reason.
https://tagmotorsports.com/bilstein-...e-991-49216042
If your ride remains harsh, that's the reason.
Thx bud. When I heard the tech say "hey man, I think you had a rat make a nest in your car" I immediately thought about ObsessedGarage's story detailing the $10k worth of wiring damage! I got lucky in this case.
#12
They would have to do at least a rudimentary alignment on the car with a 1" Drop all around, it would change the toe and camber so severely the car would be nearly undriveable otherwise.
Been there, done that when I lowered my M3 myself. The test drive was ridiculous afterwards! Luckily a simple "track day" string alignment was all I had to do to get it running out well.
Been there, done that when I lowered my M3 myself. The test drive was ridiculous afterwards! Luckily a simple "track day" string alignment was all I had to do to get it running out well.
#13
The height looks perfect and good to know about the ride, road feedback! Great timing of this thread. I just bought H&R springs earlier this week and plan to DIY install them after work tonight. I too have SPASM on mine and don't like the amount of gap. This post is very reassuring.
#14
They would have to do at least a rudimentary alignment on the car with a 1" Drop all around, it would change the toe and camber so severely the car would be nearly undriveable otherwise.
Been there, done that when I lowered my M3 myself. The test drive was ridiculous afterwards! Luckily a simple "track day" string alignment was all I had to do to get it running out well.
Been there, done that when I lowered my M3 myself. The test drive was ridiculous afterwards! Luckily a simple "track day" string alignment was all I had to do to get it running out well.
#15
The height looks perfect and good to know about the ride, road feedback! Great timing of this thread. I just bought H&R springs earlier this week and plan to DIY install them after work tonight. I too have SPASM on mine and don't like the amount of gap. This post is very reassuring.
On a side note, look what just arrived on my door step...fresh set of MP4S