Physically unable to heel Toe?
#19
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If you're just starting forget H&T, or even forget shifting for that matter -- just keep it in 3rd or 4th the whole lap and focus on the line and on the forces your body experiences as you're braking, accelerating and going through the turns.
#20
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I find the brake pedal too high to H/T on the street under normal conditions. On the track you'll be much further into the brake pedal and everything lines up perfectly.
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This is good advice when starting out. Keep shifting simple so you can concentrate on your line.
#22
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I had a tough time doing heel and toe in my race cayman until i took out the front storage bin etc
Still have issues from time to time in certain corners but i think its human hehe
Still have issues from time to time in certain corners but i think its human hehe
#24
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I think the op is trying this on the street? I find it's not possible to heal toe unless the brake pedal is depressed to the fire wall, as we do at the track. So unless he's threshold braking on the street, it's pretty tough to almost impossible to H/T.
Also, I find street shoes or sneakers make it pretty impossible to H/T easily.
And, honestly, heal toe is an overrated skill given modern transmissions. (No need to flame me--just my opinion).
Also, I find street shoes or sneakers make it pretty impossible to H/T easily.
And, honestly, heal toe is an overrated skill given modern transmissions. (No need to flame me--just my opinion).
#25
My HT pedal has a lateral extended TAB on the LEFT edge. Because of this, I was able to practice HT on the street as it doesn't require threshold braking. Really helped me solidify my HT skills
Last edited by Dr911; 06-20-2016 at 01:24 PM.
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Yea gts has cheater mode in "sport + " mode so no heel-toe is required.
edit: and yes hill toe on the street is hard. You need to be on the brake pretty hard so your brake pedal is more level with the gas pedal for a prolonged period of time.
edit: and yes hill toe on the street is hard. You need to be on the brake pretty hard so your brake pedal is more level with the gas pedal for a prolonged period of time.
#28
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Forget the words "heel-toe" and watch Senna's loafers
Ayrton Senna's Heel-and-toe - YouTube
He is using the left side of his foot on the brake and the right side of his foot on the gas. In my experience a majority of drivers do it this way, including Senna!
Ayrton Senna's Heel-and-toe - YouTube
He is using the left side of his foot on the brake and the right side of his foot on the gas. In my experience a majority of drivers do it this way, including Senna!
#29
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It's pretty tough to get a smooth H/T downshift unless you are super hard on the brake. If you ever take your car on the track then you'll see that the pedals are aligned properly. On the street, the required effort just sin't demanded from the brake pedal enough to make it smooth. On the street, I usually do a combination of brake hard, ease up, rev match shift, then finish braking.
#30
I think the op is trying this on the street? I find it's not possible to heal toe unless the brake pedal is depressed to the fire wall, as we do at the track. So unless he's threshold braking on the street, it's pretty tough to almost impossible to H/T.
Also, I find street shoes or sneakers make it pretty impossible to H/T easily.
And, honestly, heal toe is an overrated skill given modern transmissions. (No need to flame me--just my opinion).
Also, I find street shoes or sneakers make it pretty impossible to H/T easily.
And, honestly, heal toe is an overrated skill given modern transmissions. (No need to flame me--just my opinion).
Once you get past the mechanical part of operating both pedals with one foot, it's the rev matching blip of the throttle that's hardest to master consistently. Freeway off ramps (with no cars behind) are a good place to practice as you can run through multiple downshifts.
It's certainly doable under lighter street braking, where it becomes habit, and then is really easy at the track when you are braking hard and the pedals are closer together.