Porsche at the NY auto show
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Last edited by LastMezger; 03-27-2016 at 02:42 AM. Reason: Brain fart...I meant Macan but typed Cayman.
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The base Macan is not intended for us, Porsche enthusiasts. It is geared towards the entry level luxury buyer. Someone who is considering a Lexus NX200, also a 4cyl turbo, can move up to a Porsche for just a little more. All the base Macan really needs in terms of options is the nav. For $55K I think its great value. Especially considering that the Macan currently has the best resale value for compact luxury SUVs.
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The base Macan is not intended for us, Porsche enthusiasts. It is geared towards the entry level luxury buyer. Someone who is considering a Lexus NX200, also a 4cyl turbo, can move up to a Porsche for just a little more. All the base Macan really needs in terms of options is the nav. For $55K I think its great value. Especially considering that the Macan currently has the best resale value for compact luxury SUVs.
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Kidding aside, I have found this 6>4 cylinder view interesting. Yes, I guess the "flat six" is an iconic layout, but a flat four can be a great engine too. The power and torque is significantly higher in the new 718s. What remains to be seen (heard?) is driveability and sound. I am confident the former will be top-notch, but concede that it is unlikely the flat four will sound as good. Final judgement on that will have to wait until we can hear the cars live.
Bottom line: I am quite open to well-executed flat four (and I have two flat sixes in my garage, so I am as likely to be biased as anyone I suppose..)
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Quite a trick! So far only the Boxster version of the 718 4 cyl. is available! The Cayman models on the configurator are still the 6 cylinder versions... I am just being funny here, your point stands: It will be easy to option a 718 Cayman to 70K too.
Kidding aside, I have found this 6>4 cylinder view interesting. Yes, I guess the "flat six" is an iconic layout, but a flat four can be a great engine too. The power and torque is significantly higher in the new 718s. What remains to be seen (heard?) is driveability and sound. I am confident the former will be top-notch, but concede that it is unlikely the flat four will sound as good. Final judgement on that will have to wait until we can hear the cars live.
Bottom line: I am quite open to well-executed flat four (and I have two flat sixes in my garage, so I am as likely to be biased as anyone I suppose..)
Kidding aside, I have found this 6>4 cylinder view interesting. Yes, I guess the "flat six" is an iconic layout, but a flat four can be a great engine too. The power and torque is significantly higher in the new 718s. What remains to be seen (heard?) is driveability and sound. I am confident the former will be top-notch, but concede that it is unlikely the flat four will sound as good. Final judgement on that will have to wait until we can hear the cars live.
Bottom line: I am quite open to well-executed flat four (and I have two flat sixes in my garage, so I am as likely to be biased as anyone I suppose..)
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Even as a turbo owner, I prefer the immediacy and higher revving characteristics of an NA engine of similar power. Turbo charged engines generally have more problems, are more expensive to maintain and less durable. Assuming similar power, I'd take more cylinders and no turbos any day. For these reasons I'd never buy a turbo charged motor in a pedestrian vehicle like an SUV.
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Even as a turbo owner, I prefer the immediacy and higher revving characteristics of an NA engine of similar power. Turbo charged engines generally have more problems, are more expensive to maintain and less durable. Assuming similar power, I'd take more cylinders and no turbos any day. For these reasons I'd never buy a turbo charged motor in a pedestrian vehicle like an SUV.
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Oops...I meant Macan! I can't even keep the names straight...
I'm fine with the idea of a turbo four in the Macan...I lost interest in the base car at $70K though as I'd just go Macan GTS or Turbo instead. They always have it rigged just right to make it worth getting the upper models if you add any kind of content. Which is fine.
I'm fine with the idea of a turbo four in the Macan...I lost interest in the base car at $70K though as I'd just go Macan GTS or Turbo instead. They always have it rigged just right to make it worth getting the upper models if you add any kind of content. Which is fine.
Quite a trick! So far only the Boxster version of the 718 4 cyl. is available! The Cayman models on the configurator are still the 6 cylinder versions... I am just being funny here, your point stands: It will be easy to option a 718 Cayman to 70K too.
Kidding aside, I have found this 6>4 cylinder view interesting. Yes, I guess the "flat six" is an iconic layout, but a flat four can be a great engine too. The power and torque is significantly higher in the new 718s. What remains to be seen (heard?) is driveability and sound. I am confident the former will be top-notch, but concede that it is unlikely the flat four will sound as good. Final judgement on that will have to wait until we can hear the cars live.
Bottom line: I am quite open to well-executed flat four (and I have two flat sixes in my garage, so I am as likely to be biased as anyone I suppose..)
Kidding aside, I have found this 6>4 cylinder view interesting. Yes, I guess the "flat six" is an iconic layout, but a flat four can be a great engine too. The power and torque is significantly higher in the new 718s. What remains to be seen (heard?) is driveability and sound. I am confident the former will be top-notch, but concede that it is unlikely the flat four will sound as good. Final judgement on that will have to wait until we can hear the cars live.
Bottom line: I am quite open to well-executed flat four (and I have two flat sixes in my garage, so I am as likely to be biased as anyone I suppose..)
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I get that a lot of people want the best performing vehicle for the money or the latest tech/performance. That's cool. Just not my top priority.
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Sadly a 993 went up in flames in the show.........
http://jalopnik.com/watch-a-porsche-...aut-1768254359
http://jalopnik.com/watch-a-porsche-...aut-1768254359