View Poll Results: Does the Canadian forum need an OT section?
I believe there is definitely a need for one here.
17
34.69%
I believe all OT material should be moved to RL Member Forums OT section.
5
10.20%
I am comfortable with the off topic discussions within the general section of the Canadian forum.
27
55.10%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll
Canadian OT Section POLL
Racer
Joined: Sep 2014
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From: Toronto
Originally Posted by vern1
I thought the old system worked fine. If you didn't like someone then you put them on Ignore and moved on. Lots of people can be annoying including myself
Jason puerile behavior at times clearly rubbed some people the wrong way (and I think its pretty clear who those people are) but I would like to attend some of his drives because apparently they were well worth it.
Adding an OT section just adds more clutter to the site but if that's the only way to deal with this sort of stuff then lets do it. To me the vast majority of content here has some level of OT in it but whatever works. Someone must know who the moderator is??
Someone get Jason's email so we can at least organize some drives!!
Jason puerile behavior at times clearly rubbed some people the wrong way (and I think its pretty clear who those people are) but I would like to attend some of his drives because apparently they were well worth it.
Adding an OT section just adds more clutter to the site but if that's the only way to deal with this sort of stuff then lets do it. To me the vast majority of content here has some level of OT in it but whatever works. Someone must know who the moderator is??
Someone get Jason's email so we can at least organize some drives!!
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From: Toronto, Canada
When I joined RL, we were always considered different than PCA, where you have to carefully watch what you say. We even called some of our GTGs "unti social", because we were known to say what we want, we can be loud at times and some PCA members did not like that. Why do I get a feeling that we are turning into a PCA forum here?
- Let's stay on topic please! No hijacks with photos of your BFF's car for sale or the latest mods you're doing to your daily driver; start your own topics elsewhere!
- No personal attacks, offensive or disparaging comments of the people who chose to join in these discussions and attend these meets.
- If you're not a "joiner" then don't join this discussion! Nobody really wants to hear about how you're NOT planning to attend.
- Please limit your posts to relevant information only. Anything else will be reported to the Mods with a request that they be deleted.
- No personal attacks, offensive or disparaging comments of the people who chose to join in these discussions and attend these meets.
- If you're not a "joiner" then don't join this discussion! Nobody really wants to hear about how you're NOT planning to attend.
- Please limit your posts to relevant information only. Anything else will be reported to the Mods with a request that they be deleted.
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From: Toronto
Ok, good point.
I actually wanted to PM you about this after seeing your new GTG thread "rules". How is this not a way of controlling what is being posted? As long as the content is within the posting guidelines, I should be allowed to post whatever and wherever I want. You might consider me a troll and add me to your ignore list, thats fine, but if each thread comes with its own rules, where is this going to take us?
When I joined RL, we were always considered different than PCA, where you have to carefully watch what you say. We even called some of our GTGs "unti social", because we were known to say what we want, we can be loud at times and some PCA members did not like that. Why do I get a feeling that we are turning into a PCA forum here?
Why do you feel the need to threaten people if they post anything not to your liking?
I actually wanted to PM you about this after seeing your new GTG thread "rules". How is this not a way of controlling what is being posted? As long as the content is within the posting guidelines, I should be allowed to post whatever and wherever I want. You might consider me a troll and add me to your ignore list, thats fine, but if each thread comes with its own rules, where is this going to take us?
When I joined RL, we were always considered different than PCA, where you have to carefully watch what you say. We even called some of our GTGs "unti social", because we were known to say what we want, we can be loud at times and some PCA members did not like that. Why do I get a feeling that we are turning into a PCA forum here?
Why do you feel the need to threaten people if they post anything not to your liking?
No I don't consider you a troll and you are certainly not on my "ignore" list. You really should have PM'd me if you feel this strongly about it.
First of all, if you're going to quote me, quote me accurately. I didn't post "rules" I posted "requests". I'm not an Admin/Moderator so I can't make any rules. My requests were based on the fact that I was seeing more and more posts in my original thread that really went south; 1 guy decided to post a for sale ad for his "friend's" car when the classified section is 1 click above! It is within everyones rights to ask a mod to move or delete a post in your own thread that has nothing to do with the topic. Threads and posts are moved all the time in most of the forums on RL. No guarantee that the Mods will agree to do it, but you can request it.
Turning into the PCA?...Really?!?...Wow, I guess it's been awhile since you've come out to a GTG. Have you forgotten how completely casual these meets are? That you don't even have to own a Porsche to show up (unlike the PCA)?
You don't have to watch most of what you say on RL or at the GTG, but in my opinion reposting photos of people at a meet just to talk trash about someone's physical looks is not cool in my books and it is certainly not an expression of free speech, it's bullying pure and simple. I've dealt with daughters that were bullied in school and the pattern is the same as what I've seen here. The perpetrator and his fan base's usual defence is that it was all in "jest" and that people should develop a thick skin. I think we're all better than that, Stan. I really don't want people who want to come out to our GTGs to share their enthusiasm of Porsches to be concerned that they might be ridiculed on the forum by a minority of discontented individuals. We can certainly agree to disagree without resorting to name calling and personal attacks and for those who prefer that style of discourse, as the Mods have suggested they can ante up for a paid membership and head over to the Politics and Controversy section of OT; it's the wild west in there where you'll need a suit of armor to protect your thick skin.
And in case you were wondering, I've never reported anyone to a Mod to have them banned. I've reported spam threads and ignored people plenty though.
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No I don't consider you a troll and you are certainly not on my "ignore" list. You really should have PM'd me if you feel this strongly about it.
First of all, if you're going to quote me, quote me accurately. I didn't post "rules" I posted "requests". I'm not an Admin/Moderator so I can't make any rules. My requests were based on the fact that I was seeing more and more posts in my original thread that really went south; 1 guy decided to post a for sale ad for his "friend's" car when the classified section is 1 click above! It is within everyones rights to ask a mod to move or delete a post in your own thread that has nothing to do with the topic. Threads and posts are moved all the time in most of the forums on RL. No guarantee that the Mods will agree to do it, but you can request it.
Turning into the PCA?...Really?!?...Wow, I guess it's been awhile since you've come out to a GTG. Have you forgotten how completely casual these meets are? That you don't even have to own a Porsche to show up (unlike the PCA)?
You don't have to watch most of what you say on RL or at the GTG, but in my opinion reposting photos of people at a meet just to talk trash about someone's physical looks is not cool in my books and it is certainly not an expression of free speech, it's bullying pure and simple. I've dealt with daughters that were bullied in school and the pattern is the same as what I've seen here. The perpetrator and his fan base's usual defence is that it was all in "jest" and that people should develop a thick skin. I think we're all better than that, Stan. I really don't want people who want to come out to our GTGs to share their enthusiasm of Porsches to be concerned that they might be ridiculed on the forum by a minority of discontented individuals. We can certainly agree to disagree without resorting to name calling and personal attacks and for those who prefer that style of discourse, as the Mods have suggested they can ante up for a paid membership and head over to the Politics and Controversy section of OT; it's the wild west in there where you'll need a suit of armor to protect your thick skin.
And in case you were wondering, I've never reported anyone to a Mod to have them banned. I've reported spam threads and ignored people plenty though.
First of all, if you're going to quote me, quote me accurately. I didn't post "rules" I posted "requests". I'm not an Admin/Moderator so I can't make any rules. My requests were based on the fact that I was seeing more and more posts in my original thread that really went south; 1 guy decided to post a for sale ad for his "friend's" car when the classified section is 1 click above! It is within everyones rights to ask a mod to move or delete a post in your own thread that has nothing to do with the topic. Threads and posts are moved all the time in most of the forums on RL. No guarantee that the Mods will agree to do it, but you can request it.
Turning into the PCA?...Really?!?...Wow, I guess it's been awhile since you've come out to a GTG. Have you forgotten how completely casual these meets are? That you don't even have to own a Porsche to show up (unlike the PCA)?
You don't have to watch most of what you say on RL or at the GTG, but in my opinion reposting photos of people at a meet just to talk trash about someone's physical looks is not cool in my books and it is certainly not an expression of free speech, it's bullying pure and simple. I've dealt with daughters that were bullied in school and the pattern is the same as what I've seen here. The perpetrator and his fan base's usual defence is that it was all in "jest" and that people should develop a thick skin. I think we're all better than that, Stan. I really don't want people who want to come out to our GTGs to share their enthusiasm of Porsches to be concerned that they might be ridiculed on the forum by a minority of discontented individuals. We can certainly agree to disagree without resorting to name calling and personal attacks and for those who prefer that style of discourse, as the Mods have suggested they can ante up for a paid membership and head over to the Politics and Controversy section of OT; it's the wild west in there where you'll need a suit of armor to protect your thick skin.
And in case you were wondering, I've never reported anyone to a Mod to have them banned. I've reported spam threads and ignored people plenty though.
I think you just teased ,bullied and insulted them better than I ever could! Comparing grown men with Porsches to a bullied school girl,priceless and kudos to you sir. I bow to your crafty insults
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From: Toronto, Canada
No I don't consider you a troll and you are certainly not on my "ignore" list. You really should have PM'd me if you feel this strongly about it.
First of all, if you're going to quote me, quote me accurately. I didn't post "rules" I posted "requests". I'm not an Admin/Moderator so I can't make any rules. My requests were based on the fact that I was seeing more and more posts in my original thread that really went south; 1 guy decided to post a for sale ad for his "friend's" car when the classified section is 1 click above! It is within everyones rights to ask a mod to move or delete a post in your own thread that has nothing to do with the topic. Threads and posts are moved all the time in most of the forums on RL. No guarantee that the Mods will agree to do it, but you can request it.
Turning into the PCA?...Really?!?...Wow, I guess it's been awhile since you've come out to a GTG. Have you forgotten how completely casual these meets are? That you don't even have to own a Porsche to show up (unlike the PCA)?
You don't have to watch most of what you say on RL or at the GTG, but in my opinion reposting photos of people at a meet just to talk trash about someone's physical looks is not cool in my books and it is certainly not an expression of free speech, it's bullying pure and simple. I've dealt with daughters that were bullied in school and the pattern is the same as what I've seen here. The perpetrator and his fan base's usual defence is that it was all in "jest" and that people should develop a thick skin. I think we're all better than that, Stan. I really don't want people who want to come out to our GTGs to share their enthusiasm of Porsches to be concerned that they might be ridiculed on the forum by a minority of discontented individuals. We can certainly agree to disagree without resorting to name calling and personal attacks and for those who prefer that style of discourse, as the Mods have suggested they can ante up for a paid membership and head over to the Politics and Controversy section of OT; it's the wild west in there where you'll need a suit of armor to protect your thick skin.
And in case you were wondering, I've never reported anyone to a Mod to have them banned. I've reported spam threads and ignored people plenty though.
First of all, if you're going to quote me, quote me accurately. I didn't post "rules" I posted "requests". I'm not an Admin/Moderator so I can't make any rules. My requests were based on the fact that I was seeing more and more posts in my original thread that really went south; 1 guy decided to post a for sale ad for his "friend's" car when the classified section is 1 click above! It is within everyones rights to ask a mod to move or delete a post in your own thread that has nothing to do with the topic. Threads and posts are moved all the time in most of the forums on RL. No guarantee that the Mods will agree to do it, but you can request it.
Turning into the PCA?...Really?!?...Wow, I guess it's been awhile since you've come out to a GTG. Have you forgotten how completely casual these meets are? That you don't even have to own a Porsche to show up (unlike the PCA)?
You don't have to watch most of what you say on RL or at the GTG, but in my opinion reposting photos of people at a meet just to talk trash about someone's physical looks is not cool in my books and it is certainly not an expression of free speech, it's bullying pure and simple. I've dealt with daughters that were bullied in school and the pattern is the same as what I've seen here. The perpetrator and his fan base's usual defence is that it was all in "jest" and that people should develop a thick skin. I think we're all better than that, Stan. I really don't want people who want to come out to our GTGs to share their enthusiasm of Porsches to be concerned that they might be ridiculed on the forum by a minority of discontented individuals. We can certainly agree to disagree without resorting to name calling and personal attacks and for those who prefer that style of discourse, as the Mods have suggested they can ante up for a paid membership and head over to the Politics and Controversy section of OT; it's the wild west in there where you'll need a suit of armor to protect your thick skin.
And in case you were wondering, I've never reported anyone to a Mod to have them banned. I've reported spam threads and ignored people plenty though.
Team Owner
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From: Cambridge Ontario Canada
what a mess this is turning into.
I think all Phil was saying was to try and prevent clutter in the thread so it is clear to people where and when to meet up and can stay on top of any changes we might make. I think Stan took this as censorship, and not what Phil was trying to communicate. I am sure they will sort it all.
Personally I have no problem with Canadian specific OT as it is usually listed in the title. I just don't click on it if I am not interested. It would be nice to have more Porsche content on a Porsche forum , but it is what it is.
I think all Phil was saying was to try and prevent clutter in the thread so it is clear to people where and when to meet up and can stay on top of any changes we might make. I think Stan took this as censorship, and not what Phil was trying to communicate. I am sure they will sort it all.
Personally I have no problem with Canadian specific OT as it is usually listed in the title. I just don't click on it if I am not interested. It would be nice to have more Porsche content on a Porsche forum , but it is what it is.
Drifting
Joined: Sep 2006
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From: Toronto, C eh! N eh! D eh!
Funny you mention that... I was going to actually become a paying member this week... then I saw the 356/NobleGT3 ban and decided against it. I don't really want to be a paying member to a group of whiners and children...
Race Car
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,625
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From: Toronto
what a mess indeed!!
but now the Cdn section has become more fun than OT
accusations, intrigue, insults, schisms, back room deals - how can it get any better??
Mt Fish Tank, if you are coordinating runs with the dark side, let me know what info you need
but now the Cdn section has become more fun than OT
accusations, intrigue, insults, schisms, back room deals - how can it get any better??
Mt Fish Tank, if you are coordinating runs with the dark side, let me know what info you need
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From: Toronto
I think all Phil was saying was to try and prevent clutter in the thread so it is clear to people where and when to meet up and can stay on top of any changes we might make. I think Stan took this as censorship, and not what Phil was trying to communicate. I am sure they will sort it all.
Personally I have no problem with Canadian specific OT as it is usually listed in the title. I just don't click on it if I am not interested. It would be nice to have more Porsche content on a Porsche forum , but it is what it is.
Personally I have no problem with Canadian specific OT as it is usually listed in the title. I just don't click on it if I am not interested. It would be nice to have more Porsche content on a Porsche forum , but it is what it is.
cant we all just get along and drive
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If we had an OT section I guess I'd be out.
This should be considered an OT section as there really isn't any technical information here.
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From: Toronto
what a mess this is turning into.
I think all Phil was saying was to try and prevent clutter in the thread so it is clear to people where and when to meet up and can stay on top of any changes we might make. I think Stan took this as censorship, and not what Phil was trying to communicate. I am sure they will sort it all.
Personally I have no problem with Canadian specific OT as it is usually listed in the title. I just don't click on it if I am not interested. It would be nice to have more Porsche content on a Porsche forum , but it is what it is.
I think all Phil was saying was to try and prevent clutter in the thread so it is clear to people where and when to meet up and can stay on top of any changes we might make. I think Stan took this as censorship, and not what Phil was trying to communicate. I am sure they will sort it all.
Personally I have no problem with Canadian specific OT as it is usually listed in the title. I just don't click on it if I am not interested. It would be nice to have more Porsche content on a Porsche forum , but it is what it is.
Btw: Stan and I have worked it out offline without a single insult being hurled at one another. Aka, like grown men.
