New Ontario 'safety' car regulations... $hit Storm starts now...
12-11-2015, 10:42 AM
#18
Rennlist Member
12-11-2015, 01:45 PM
#19
Three Wheelin'
You need to READ the document carefully. It all hinges on this notion of "OEM standard" which is a level of quality, carefully defined in the document. Aftermarket parts that meet this standard should be fine.
Now, how it gets interpreted in the field is another matter. But I don't think this is quite as scary for the aftermarket as we fear.
But the real problem here is this insane dependence on the "manufacturers specifications". This is a theme through out the doc, and if a tech were really doing this to the letter, they would need the full service manuals of every car they'd ever inspect, and the time to review and refer to them for the inspection. Just not gonna happen. At that level, the approach seems flawed to me.
Other key findings from a quick, partial read-through...
Ride heights have to be OEM spec. Doesn't say what jurisdiction though, so Euro RS height might pass? Slammed cars clearly won't.
Suspension is "free". There are just condition requirements.
Brakes are "free", but there are some niggling spec requirements, like "OEM pad caliper clearance".
Power steering can't be defeated. Steering wheels are "free" by my interpretation, since again they're based on this definition of OEM standard, which is NOT a spec, but a quality/performance level.
And so on...
Clearly, so long as the aftermarket parts you use are reputable and of high quality, by my interpretation, You're good to go.
Rk
Now, how it gets interpreted in the field is another matter. But I don't think this is quite as scary for the aftermarket as we fear.
But the real problem here is this insane dependence on the "manufacturers specifications". This is a theme through out the doc, and if a tech were really doing this to the letter, they would need the full service manuals of every car they'd ever inspect, and the time to review and refer to them for the inspection. Just not gonna happen. At that level, the approach seems flawed to me.
Other key findings from a quick, partial read-through...
Ride heights have to be OEM spec. Doesn't say what jurisdiction though, so Euro RS height might pass? Slammed cars clearly won't.
Suspension is "free". There are just condition requirements.
Brakes are "free", but there are some niggling spec requirements, like "OEM pad caliper clearance".
Power steering can't be defeated. Steering wheels are "free" by my interpretation, since again they're based on this definition of OEM standard, which is NOT a spec, but a quality/performance level.
And so on...
Clearly, so long as the aftermarket parts you use are reputable and of high quality, by my interpretation, You're good to go.
Rk
Last edited by Rally Guy; 12-11-2015 at 02:10 PM.
12-11-2015, 04:07 PM
#20
Captain Obvious
Super User
Super User
If the safety inspections go up to $500, the used car dealers will have a their say in it I'm sure. Like they did with extending the e-test requirements to cars that are too old for most of them to sell.
12-12-2015, 01:10 PM
#21
You need to READ the document carefully. It all hinges on this notion of "OEM standard" which is a level of quality, carefully defined in the document. Aftermarket parts that meet this standard should be fine.
Now, how it gets interpreted in the field is another matter. But I don't think this is quite as scary for the aftermarket as we fear.
But the real problem here is this insane dependence on the "manufacturers specifications". This is a theme through out the doc, and if a tech were really doing this to the letter, they would need the full service manuals of every car they'd ever inspect, and the time to review and refer to them for the inspection. Just not gonna happen. At that level, the approach seems flawed to me.
Other key findings from a quick, partial read-through...
Ride heights have to be OEM spec. Doesn't say what jurisdiction though, so Euro RS height might pass? Slammed cars clearly won't.
Suspension is "free". There are just condition requirements.
Brakes are "free", but there are some niggling spec requirements, like "OEM pad caliper clearance".
Power steering can't be defeated. Steering wheels are "free" by my interpretation, since again they're based on this definition of OEM standard, which is NOT a spec, but a quality/performance level.
And so on...
Clearly, so long as the aftermarket parts you use are reputable and of high quality, by my interpretation, You're good to go.
Rk
Now, how it gets interpreted in the field is another matter. But I don't think this is quite as scary for the aftermarket as we fear.
But the real problem here is this insane dependence on the "manufacturers specifications". This is a theme through out the doc, and if a tech were really doing this to the letter, they would need the full service manuals of every car they'd ever inspect, and the time to review and refer to them for the inspection. Just not gonna happen. At that level, the approach seems flawed to me.
Other key findings from a quick, partial read-through...
Ride heights have to be OEM spec. Doesn't say what jurisdiction though, so Euro RS height might pass? Slammed cars clearly won't.
Suspension is "free". There are just condition requirements.
Brakes are "free", but there are some niggling spec requirements, like "OEM pad caliper clearance".
Power steering can't be defeated. Steering wheels are "free" by my interpretation, since again they're based on this definition of OEM standard, which is NOT a spec, but a quality/performance level.
And so on...
Clearly, so long as the aftermarket parts you use are reputable and of high quality, by my interpretation, You're good to go.
Rk
I remember getting a car safety'd at crappy tire once. The guy told me I needed new front calipers. Interesting since I had just replaced them with re-manufactured ones...from crappy tire, the week before. lol
A safety better not climb to $500.
12-12-2015, 09:35 PM
#23
12-12-2015, 10:09 PM
#24
Rennlist Member
F'ing wonderful.
12-13-2015, 10:17 PM
#26
Captain Obvious
Super User
Super User
12-17-2015, 06:00 PM
#27
Team Owner
Wynne wants your money you can bet she will get a cut .. Same reason beer and wine in stores.. so she can sell more and get more tax money ...
..underage kid hanging out in front of beer store .. doesn't happen too much ..
underage kid hanging out in front of grocery store .. no one would notice and much more likey to have someone buy it for them ..
they don't care . its just about money to pay for their idiotic government spending.
..underage kid hanging out in front of beer store .. doesn't happen too much ..
underage kid hanging out in front of grocery store .. no one would notice and much more likey to have someone buy it for them ..
they don't care . its just about money to pay for their idiotic government spending.
12-18-2015, 12:40 AM
#29
Team Owner
12-18-2015, 12:54 AM
#30
19 is a joke...how many 35>yearolds are an issue???