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Old 05-04-2014 | 02:25 PM
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Where are folks getting this stuff. Everything I've read suggests it quite helpful for aging electrics. And I have a lot of those.

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Old 05-04-2014 | 04:10 PM
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What are you working on? Just noisy pots gather?
It's good but expensive. Prices like Channel No 5. You can order at Amazon.
Cheaper alternative is Deoxit. Works wee & I use it all the time.
Get it at Sayal Electronics. Multiple locations all over the city.
Old 05-04-2014 | 04:37 PM
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Agreed, Deoxit for pots, but Stabilent is to ensure long term connectivity in severe service for electrical connectors.

Different stuff for different uses. I'm after Stabilent specifically. this is for the 911.

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Old 05-06-2014 | 10:01 PM
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YEARS ago, and I mean almost 30 years ago, a salesman tried to sell this stuff to our company, our engineering director, who is one of the most brilliant person I know, looked into it and felt it wasn't worth the cost assuming it even works, especially for newer electronics.

Moving the contacts around a bit in older electronics will often cure the intermittent contact issues, so removing the contacting surfaces to apply this stuff and reinstall the contacting surface will likely clean off the oxidation, and make a much better contact.

I still feel it's more like Snake Oil.

Read the following and see if you really want to believe the hype of big technical mumble jumble:

tabilant 22 is an electrically active material which stays resident within a contact-pair, there enhancing conductivity without causing electrical leakage between adjacent contacts. Although Stabilant 22 does have a detergent action it is not sold as a cleaner, just as it has a good lubricant action but is not sold as a lubricant. Stabilant 22 is used to increase the reliability of contacts. Tenfold to one hundred-fold increases are not unusual. At the present time it is used in many different types of contacts, including card-edge connectors, D-type connectors, MIL-spec connectors, signal switches, etc. Stabilant 22 is an initially non-conductive amorphous-semiconductive polyoxyethylene-polyoxypropyline block polymer with a molecular weight of about 2800 that, when used in thin films between contacts, acts under the influence of the electrical field and switches to a conductive state. The electric field gradient at which this occurs is established during manufacture so that the material will remain normally non-conductive. Its switching speed is too slow to allow it to be used in the more traditional semiconductor applications; however, this means that signals at frequencies substantially above five cycles per hour will not be modulated by the switching characteristics of Stabilant 22. In its undiluted form at room temperature, Stabilant 22 has the viscosity of medium-weight motor oil, although it thins out with increasing temperature, starting to decompose into the two polymers it is formed from at about 240° Celsius. It has a very low vapor pressure and therefore there is no appreciable loss of material from evaporation. It has been in some applications for more than fifteen years without renewal, and it is probably safe to say that in the majority of cases, the equipment on which it is used will be retired as obsolescent before the Stabilant must be renewed.
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What kind of controls are you repairing?
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These are all the connectors in my 964. The f car guys swear by it for the classic cars.

I have ongoing electrical oddities and a recurring power loss that I can't track down permanently.

I actually buy the science, and am keen to try some. Seems like few of us know about it.

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Originally Posted by Rally Guy
These are all the connectors in my 964. The f car guys swear by it for the classic cars.

I have ongoing electrical oddities and a recurring power loss that I can't track down permanently.

I actually buy the science, and am keen to try some. Seems like few of us know about it.

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Even if you use the 22, you still have to make sure there's actual contact.
Most connectors are usually just spring tension to some degree so you may have to use a probe to flex or bend contacts afterwards to ensure proper connection.

As wee dielectric grease also prevents any moisture infiltration. Especially in with connectors expose to the elements.




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