Notices

Newbie here....Pfaff or Downtown Porsche?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-10-2013, 12:44 AM
  #16  
PC Valkyrie
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
PC Valkyrie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for all the replies. Went to DFC today and reserved a spot for a 2014 991 GT3. Earliest cars will arrive in Nov/Dec 2013. Apparently, there is a "queue" already, and I won't receive my car until spring 2014 at the earliest, which is perfect timing for me. They couldn't provide any more information about the car beyond what I knew already from reading all the press releases and informative posts on Rennlist.

I test drove a 991 C2S today with PDK too. As expected, the shifts in manual mode are way faster than the manual mode of my C55 AMG's slushbox. The car I drove today did not have the paddles at the back of the steering wheeil....rather, it had the awkward push to upshift/pull to dowshift buttons on the steering wheel which were really counterintuitive for me.

Even though I am very comfortable and enjoy tracking with a 6MT transmission in my 135i, my desire is to get a car with the latest dual clutch technology (with proper shift paddles), as I think it provides a new type of performance which I have not experienced before.

Ronan's point about lack of reviews is true. I'm basically relying on faith right now and banking on Porsche's reputation given the recent history of GT3 cars from the 996 and 997 generation. Time will tell as car magazines get their hands on the 991 GT3 in the next few months/year.

All the spec's of the 991 GT3 sound great, EXCEPT for the fuel consumption numbers.....18L/100km in the city is pretty brutal for a 3.8L 6 cylinder engine.......lack of an overdrive gear and aggressive fuel mapping for maximum power/acceleration are probably the major causes. I just worry about excessive need to refuel during track days. Were the 997 GT3 cars so horrible in fuel consumption?
Old 03-12-2013, 02:56 AM
  #17  
benz_addict
6th Gear
 
benz_addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Toronto
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

PC nice to see you here! Hope to see you at some track days
Old 03-14-2013, 08:30 AM
  #18  
Mumbles
Drifting
 
Mumbles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Ontario
Posts: 2,652
Received 62 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

For me an extra tank of gas now and again is the least of my worries, the $ 160k price tag outta door is what I'd be concerned about.

Good Luck PC V
Old 03-15-2013, 01:22 AM
  #19  
fc-racer
Drifting
 
fc-racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Beijing, China
Posts: 2,438
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Talk to John Lee at pfaff. They get way more gt3 allocations.
Old 03-15-2013, 03:02 AM
  #20  
jasonintoronto
Burning Brakes
 
jasonintoronto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 819
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Wait...what? When did John go to pffaff? I just saw him last year?
Old 03-15-2013, 02:24 PM
  #21  
jumper5836
Nordschleife Master
 
jumper5836's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: great white north
Posts: 8,531
Received 72 Likes on 48 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie

All the spec's of the 991 GT3 sound great, EXCEPT for the fuel consumption numbers.....18L/100km in the city is pretty brutal for a 3.8L 6 cylinder engine.......lack of an overdrive gear and aggressive fuel mapping for maximum power/acceleration are probably the major causes. I just worry about excessive need to refuel during track days. Were the 997 GT3 cars so horrible in fuel consumption?
18l/100km seems excessive.
With my car It was rated as 8.3 hwy/13.2 city.
I get usually 14-16 and I drive it pretty crazy never below 3500 rpm.
on the highway long trips in 6th gear I get 8.8 - 9 and at the track 27l/100

So if they say it's 18l they mean only if it is being babied. Expect 20l. Unless they messed up and it's 18 at the track.
Old 03-15-2013, 05:28 PM
  #22  
TurboS
Drifting
 
TurboS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2,876
Received 41 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jumper5836
18l/100km seems excessive.
With my car It was rated as 8.3 hwy/13.2 city.
I get usually 14-16 and I drive it pretty crazy never below 3500 rpm.
on the highway long trips in 6th gear I get 8.8 - 9 and at the track 27l/100

So if they say it's 18l they mean only if it is being babied. Expect 20l. Unless they messed up and it's 18 at the track.
Don't be surprised if you have to fill up by 11:30 at Mosport. That may be a little painful But will be offset by the enjoyment of watching 997 GT3's and 997TT in your rear view mirror. Not sure why I know that.
Old 03-16-2013, 12:38 AM
  #23  
Porsche Wheel House
2nd Gear
 
Porsche Wheel House's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Oakville ON Canada
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Talk to John Lee at Pfaff. He recently moved there from DFC. John lives and breathes GT3. He is a great guy and a GT3 fanatic. The service at DFC is very good. The sales folks are great, too. Never had service at Pfaff but willing to give them a try. I'll also put in a plug for Brent Hunter at Hunter Motorsports in Mississauga. Brent is a great guy; he installed my Fabspeed x-pipe and competition air intake, and he's a perfectionist.
Old 03-18-2013, 02:06 PM
  #24  
JasonKM
Racer
 
JasonKM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 382
Likes: 0
Received 32 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

Personally I prefer Pfaff for service. I have been to DFC twice with my car while it was under warranty and would never go back. Both times they were painfull to deal with. I'm a former heavy truck/diesel mechanic so maybe my expectation were a little high.
I went to Pfaff last spring for service and had a great experience. I plan to go back to Pfaff in the spring before my extended warranty runs out.
Old 03-18-2013, 02:23 PM
  #25  
Turbodan
Rennlist Member
 
Turbodan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto Canada eh!
Posts: 11,429
Received 531 Likes on 399 Posts
Default

I thought the 991 gt3 pdk still will have 7 gears.
the new cars usually have better fuel mileage.
Old 03-18-2013, 09:09 PM
  #26  
King_James
Instructor
 
King_James's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 115
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Have nothing but great things to say about Pfaff, they have been really good to me.
Old 03-19-2013, 11:30 AM
  #27  
500
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
500's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 3,324
Received 155 Likes on 98 Posts
Default

Overall, both dealerships have a good rep.

I am a long-time Pfaff customer and I have always been very happy with them. I buy parts for the old cars regularly there and we are on our second vehicle purchase with John Hulley, who is superb.

(I would also echo Porsche Wheel House on Brent Hunter... outstanding independent specialist!)
Old 04-02-2013, 11:37 PM
  #28  
PorscheAntoine
Intermediate
 
PorscheAntoine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London/Toronto/Ottawa
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Don't forget about us at Porsche of London!
Sometimes we have allocation for these specialty cars without the line up



Quick Reply: Newbie here....Pfaff or Downtown Porsche?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 08:24 PM.