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Old 08-26-2012, 04:15 PM
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This IMS thing is freaking me out, although I realize this is not a given here. Curious when did you have the clutch done (how many kms) and was the IMS fix not a consideration at the time ? On a seperate but related note, I had to replace my clutch at 45K. Seemed way too early to me - I'm a second owner its an 06 997 but it had a perfect service record. Mechanics showed me various components indicating they believed corrosion to be the culpruit vs mis-use. just curious for anybody's opinions on that as well
Old 08-27-2012, 04:20 PM
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Want to touch base and let everybody know that this IS NOT AN IMS ISSUE. The metal in the oil pain is NON FERROUS and is more than likely a rod bearing that's come apart. I was sure it was am IMS until we found this all out.

In any case, my car was an 06 and had that non serviceable IMS.

Engine coming out this week. New engine hopefully going to be shipped next week.

Then we start work on the hail damage.

Old 08-27-2012, 05:04 PM
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The connecting rod bearins and the main bearings will stick to a magnet, so you have something else that let go. Does it look like aluminium?
Old 08-27-2012, 05:19 PM
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Thanks for keep us updated. Commiserations.

Is the car at your shop?
Old 08-27-2012, 05:37 PM
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Shouldn't the hail damage ve addressed first?
Old 08-27-2012, 06:35 PM
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Man, that just plain sucks. I hear what you're saying about sticking with air-cooled, but if the water-cooled cars are what you like, why should you have to? I've been tossing around the idea of replacing the mini with a 997 when the mini's time is up, but I'm really not sure I want to get involved in a non-warrantied water cooled 911. I know the instances of major failures are low, but they're high enough that I'm not willing to gamble 20k on it. You only lose at russian roulette 17% of the time, but I still wouldn't play it...
Old 08-27-2012, 09:31 PM
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That sucks, Adam..... But at least it'll give you an excuse to get on your s1000rr to blast around!
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Hi Adam, sorry to hear your story. FYI, my IMS went at 72k... which was 5 days after the clutch was changed at DTFC. So I was not imopressed that they did not even mention the IMS issue at the time. The story afterwards was that the LNengineering fix is aftermnarket, so Porsched dealers don't install it... they just sell you a new engine when it blows. So, I had it rebuilt elsewhere with the 'non-servicable' (Gen 3) IMS = complete shaft and bearing + more. Requires splitting the block to install. That part alone is $1500. This part came in the 2007 and 2008 and all porsche re-man engines. Your 2006 has a Gen 2 bearing which is still servicable.

Best of luck on the engine swap.
Old 09-01-2012, 04:15 PM
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Curious, what did they charge you for your 'rebuild'? I'm semi considering tackling the rebuild... I'm more than capable with a wrench.

Why would I address the hail damage first? An ugly car I can drive is better than a pretty one that sits in my driveway... not to mention that supply and demand means hail repair guys are pricey right now.

Le Sigh.
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Hail damage first because that might total the car AND because it's their fault, you can leverage that for your engine repair.

Ie they screwed up your cars exterior - they should fix the engine at a massive discount.
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Doesn't work like that sadly. It isn't their fault it hailed. It just goes through my comprehensive insurance. I put it through insurance and hoped that MAYBE they'd write it off. Just over $7000 damage so I just took the pay out and am using that to buy a used engine.
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Originally Posted by atr911
Doesn't work like that sadly. It isn't their fault it hailed. It just goes through my comprehensive insurance. I put it through insurance and hoped that MAYBE they'd write it off. Just over $7000 damage so I just took the pay out and am using that to buy a used engine.
I would do the same.
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But you were not in possession or control of your car when this happened. Why did this go thru your insurance? They have insurance for these things.
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Sounds like you are not getting treated fair by the dealer. If the dealer chooses to keep the car outside and something happens it's not the owners fault. That's why I keep my cars in a garage to prevent this type of BS. The dealer should respect owners cars and do the same.
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Using that logic, every car parked at the mall during the storm would be going through the malls insurance.

Believe it or not, if your car is in for service and there's an accident, the claim goes through your insurance and the shop pays the deductible if it was their fault. It isn't their fault hail hit any more than it was my fault. That's what comprehensive insurance is for.


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