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Old 06-26-2012 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chrenan
I carry one too. Its to put me out if I'm on fire when I get out of the car.
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Old 06-26-2012 | 05:05 PM
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didnt one of the top gear shows show an early development R8 V10 completely engulfed ?
Old 06-26-2012 | 06:09 PM
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Yup one of the mules flamed up on a test.
Old 06-26-2012 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by b5audia4
Where do you guys get the HalGuard or equivalent car fire extinguisher in the GTA?
I think I saw them at Sports Car Boutique. I bought mine from the US http://www.4wheelparts.com/Towing/H3...t_pn=H3RHG250B , had it shipped to CBI and brought it back along with a few other things.

As for how big a fire this 2.5 lb unit is effective for, everything else being equal, I would rather have a fire bottle in the car than not if and when the need arises!
Old 06-26-2012 | 08:54 PM
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Old 06-26-2012 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MidnightCayman
That is one hot looking R8!
Good One!
Old 06-27-2012 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbodan
I had a fuel fire in my old 951 and the extinguisher only lasted about 30 seconds when opened. not enough to put out a fuel fire. My neibor grabbed his 5 or 7 lber and we used a hose for the rest. luckily very little damage. but made me realize the extinguishers hold very little. really only good for tiny fire or to get you out of the car safely if burning inside.
If it's fuel related - your chances are remote that you can put out the fire without a lot of help. A 2.5lb bottle knocks down the flames for a few seconds and when the powder charge in the air dissipates and is replaced with O2 again - the fire resumes. You only have a few attempts until the pressure is gone in the bottle. Short bursts are better then long ones and don't paint the fire or body work thinking that sodium bicarbonate acts as a fire suppressant - it doesn't. You saturate the air with powder to replace O2 only. The Halon or replacement for Halon type gases are not recommended for general use - mostly for on-board units and not hand held bottles that have to be directed under the cars engine area. Too many people place a lot of trust in these little bottles. They may be fine for an oil leak fire as long as it isn't a major one or an over heated insulation issue.

We had a bad fire at the World Challenge races this past weekend - one of our people emptied a 10lb on a GT class turbo Volvo and then another marshal got there with a 20lb one and they emptied that one. It wasn't until the fire team from corner 5 got there with their water/foam unit plus hand held bottles that they put out the fire. Thankfully the driver was already out by that time or it wouldn't have ended too well for him.

No clear idea what went wrong but suspected fuel rail break seems to be the thinking as the fire started between the engine and fire wall and then spread inside the cockpit! Randy Pobst was ok - the K-Pax car not so good...


To be clear: any extinguisher is better then NO extinguisher - but get the hell out of the car and stay up wind of the smoke. Most of the smoke is highly toxic from the cars interior burning. Your insurance will replace the car but nothing can replace your lungs or years of poor health.
Old 06-27-2012 | 09:52 PM
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I trained on fire suppression systems and as I recall from the lessons, fire depends on the triangle of, Heat, Air, Fuel. Deprive any of those and no fire. Too bad that Halon messes up the environment because it is outstanding at depriving a fire of air. A small burst of halon will put out a fire, but if it's fuel fed over a hot manifold or an electrical fire then it's just a matter of time before ignition recurs.
Old 06-27-2012 | 11:39 PM
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Toronto's finest putting out the fire.

Old 06-27-2012 | 11:48 PM
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I was going to say that at least the hood, front fenders and the headlights are salvageable, that is until I got to the 2 minute 10 seconds mark when firefigher K. Turner started hammering away at the left fender and busted the headlights........

WHY?! Had he not realized the engine and the fire were at the other end of the car?!?!
Old 06-28-2012 | 09:27 AM
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naw he was just making sure the ins company didnt try to fix it .. making sure it was a write off . Must be a car guy ..
Old 06-28-2012 | 11:07 AM
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video here: http://www.wheels.ca/news/audi-r8-bu...nd-in-toronto/
Old 06-28-2012 | 12:18 PM
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That is painful to watch
Old 06-28-2012 | 06:46 PM
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Get 19A coverage including tax and forget the extinguisher.
Old 06-28-2012 | 09:46 PM
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What part of the Gardiner has grass that high??


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