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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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Default Track day fatality, a sobering reminder

In light of the topics we've been discussing on the Canada forum, I thought I'd share this topic from the 997 GT3/GT2 forum of a participant in a DE dying due to neck injuries.

What's remarkable is the amazing amount of run off and the condition of the car, but yet the driver still died. We have a tenth of the run-off at Mosport and we can only hope that our cars' shell will look like that after an off.

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...on-safety.html
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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This is a sad and sobering story, and yet another reminder of the dangers of doing what we do at the track. When I made the decision a few years ago to become a lot more involved in trackdays and DEs, it was an easy decision to buy a purpose -built track car and to regularly use other safety stuff such as Nomex . A HANS device will probably be next. For those who scoff at such stuff, have a look at some of the recent wrecks/fires/incidents at recent lapping & DE days and you might think differently.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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When I was tracking a lot, I did so with 6pts, race buckets and a HANS.

Play safe folks.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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Have had my car for a year, and it came with bar and harnesses; never even tried the harnesses until I had my HANS device...
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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I'm one of the few in Rennsport who uses my Hans religiously.

Can't understand why.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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I wear full race gear inc Hans every time on the track and won't use an over the shoulders harness without a Hans. Once you're strapped into the seat with a full harness nothing can move except your neck....also no harness without roll over protection. At the velocities we go with these cars on the track sh*t can and will happen....be prepared.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FFaust
Have had my car for a year, and it came with bar and harnesses; never even tried the harnesses until I had my HANS device...
Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
I'm one of the few in Rennsport who uses my Hans religiously.

Can't understand why.

Me too.

I may be be no big shakes in the speed dept. but you eventually progress to a point where an assesment of risk has to tip in favour of more rigorous safety equipment.

I roll (slowly) in blue with roll bar, hybrid 6-point and HANS.

Seems like the right fit for my current experience level.

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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 01:07 AM
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Don't have to be going really fast to get hurt Matt. My neck is worth more than $1k the Hans is worth.
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Quick or slow question. I just started tracking my C4S this year and I am working hard on getting better, so much to the point that I walk mosport before each track day (5 times this year). The track sure looks scarier looking backwards. I have realized that safety equipment is a must. I have noticed that some people have half cages in their porsches, while the stock car guys have full cages. So does the half cage really protect you, because it ends before it is covering your head in the front?

Can anyone offer their opinion?
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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Some years ago a 996 GT2 went off the track at Spokane at high speed (~200kph). Flipped rolled and caught on fire and only had the Porsche roll bar in the back...the driver opened the door and walked away. So they're not so bad and a lot better than nothing. A good compromise for a street/track car. Full cages aren't a great idea for street driving without a helmet....
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
Don't have to be going really fast to get hurt Matt. My neck is worth more than $1k the Hans is worth.
No **** - we're on the same page there. It's basic physics, really.

Best,

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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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problem is if you want a Hans you need a harness, if you install a harness you need at least a roll bar but for those of us who uses the back seat or use the car regularly on the street, there isn't much choice.

edit; just read about the new stuff you can use with the 3 point OEM belt, this is very interesting, might give it a try.
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