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Old 09-28-2011 | 05:09 PM
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Thanks Chris, makes sense.
Old 09-28-2011 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pickering993
I was told that the driver in question had just been moved up to black, and that was his first session out in that group....went out and overcooked it into 2, got sideways into the grass at the bottom of 2, and hit a rut which caused the rollover.
That will do it. Usually the white group is where people make the rookie mistakes.
Old 09-28-2011 | 06:35 PM
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He passed me on the right between 1 and 2 with tons of speed. Because he was on the right he entered the corner in good shape and had the apex lined up. I guess he thought it was too fast (he was) so he braked at the apex and spun. Now he locks the brakes and goes down the hill backwards still spinning and hit the grass sideways. You know the rest .....
I had to let up a bit so he could pass me between 1 and 2 and so I wouldn't be too tight going into the corner. By the time I pulled to the right to line up the corner he was sliding down the hill. Now I have to brake because I'm not going for an apex that has dirt all over it and a car going backwards! I braked straight untill I slowed down enough for a turn in.
There you have it. Time for a in-car camera.
Old 09-28-2011 | 06:37 PM
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BTW
I am not going to make any comments about that it was his 3rd lap in black and it ruined my last run
Old 09-28-2011 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 911 Rod
BTW We were not asked to not talk about anything relating to UCR incidents. We were asked that people who have cameras in their cars not post on u-tube as the laps could be timed and they do not want to jeopardise the insurance coverage.
Thanks for clearing that up Rod. Nothing wrong with that request that I can see. You see so many people who Go Pro themselves into trouble by publicizing their failings - you have to wonder if they would be better off on one of these talent shows if they have such a need for attention. We've picked up a few camera's off the track this year. I picked one up (multi pieces) that fell of a Ferrari Challenge 458 that hit my wall at 11A at the Indy this year.

I think we should begin a new rule starting for 2012 - finders keepers. It's getting out of hand now. People are channeling Paris Hilton - liking themselves way too much and into self taping...
Old 09-28-2011 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ZR8ED
BTW signing a waiver doesn't automatically exclude you from someone who wants to persue legal action. There was a club once in the Kingston area. They had a track day, and someone was killed, and the widow sued the club and won. Every member had to cough up $50g's. (this was many years ago)
Just wondering if you have any more details on this incident? I'm presently the membership chair for the St. Lawrence Auto Club CASC-OR (Kingston area) and have been in the club for about 17 years and have never heard of this.

BTW, clubs do usually have additional directors insurance for the executive members who may be sued in cases like this.
Old 09-28-2011 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Torontoworker
that hit my wall at 11A at the Indy this year.
Where's 11A? Is that some secret marshals-only turn?
Old 09-28-2011 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Christien
I do. I don't go to the track to set new lap times, or prove how fast I can drive. I go to the track to enjoy my car the way it was meant to be driven. And I have a lot of fun doing it. I've thought about buying a track car before, even went so far as to pick up a 944 a few years ago (turned out to be too much of a basket case to make safe for the track, so it became my winter beater for a couple years). But then I remind myself why I go to the track, and it's simply to enjoy driving my car fast around corners. Well, fast in the 1972 sense...




Meh, one less Camaro in the world...

I had the best time this past weekend by hooking up with slower cars like mine. In one lap I swapped positions (after receiving or giving pass signal) 5 times . We were both driving alot slower but the funny thing was afterwards people came up to me after saying it looked like you guys were having a blast. Which we were.

As far as the chap that got hurt his side air bag went off and it caught him in the side. We were told he is o/k.
Old 09-28-2011 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Christien
Where's 11A? Is that some secret marshals-only turn?
If he tells us, he'll have to kill us!
Old 09-28-2011 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Christien
Where's 11A? Is that some secret marshals-only turn?
That's one of the new proposed turns. I think it's right by the canteen. They're going to put marshal stations all around it and black flag me if I buy any more burgers.

Which they would be right to do.
Old 09-29-2011 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Torontoworker

I know what the solution is but none of you will like it. (Well some might)

Buy a track car.
Old 09-29-2011 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Christien
Where's 11A? Is that some secret marshals-only turn?
I think 11a is in reference to the entry or first section of the last corner before the start finish straight at the Toronto Indy race,... not Mosport.

Last edited by Mark Lue; 09-29-2011 at 01:46 AM. Reason: typo
Old 09-29-2011 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Lue
I think 11a is in reference to the entry or first section of the last corner before the start finish straight at the Toronto Indy race,... not Mosport.
Mark wins the next debris prize I pick up for decoding what I said!
Old 09-29-2011 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by blur911
Just wondering if you have any more details on this incident? I'm presently the membership chair for the St. Lawrence Auto Club CASC-OR (Kingston area) and have been in the club for about 17 years and have never heard of this.

BTW, clubs do usually have additional directors insurance for the executive members who may be sued in cases like this.
I've been a member of CASC for 25 years and never heard of an issue like this down east of us. Are we sure we are not confusing the Shannonville go karting death of a few years back - there was a settlement in that tragic event? That was a public rental issue. The only other death I am aware of is the F1200 driver at a CASC-OR event at Shannonville a few years back - the club I believe was DAC and that did not end in any litigation that I am aware of. I do know that anyone renting the track at Mosport has to produce a certificate of insurance before a wheel turns. Lawyers can still sue but the litigation costs to defend is paid by the insurance company (and/or any out of court settlement).
Old 10-02-2011 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
That will do it. Usually the white group is where people make the rookie mistakes.
I disagree. As a white run group member I don't recall too many incidents in our group. Maybe selective memory or just tunnel vision but most of the PCA DE off track excursions for the past couple of years seem to have been in the black group.



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