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Old 07-19-2011, 12:52 PM
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Not a lawyer here, but it would seem to me that you have to actually incur a loss in order to recover it. In other words, suppose the car is repaired tomorrow and is immediately appraised and listed for sale. Suppose that it sells the next day for $10,000 less than the appraised value. Then you can sue for $10,000.

Suppose on the other hand that the owner sells that car in 2023. A similar, clean car will probably only be worth $10-12k. What would the damaged car sell for? $0? $2K? Likely more. Therefore the owner would never sustained a loss of $10,000.

It's a crappy situation. Everyone loses.
Except for the bodyshop.
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Originally Posted by John 996 TT Cab
OK, found the case.

Do a search with Google on BC Supreme Courts. There you will find the ability to do a case search.

The Case is "Signorello v. Khan" and the case number is 2010 BCSC 1448. The judge awarded $16,000 for accelerated depreciation and also a small amount for loss of use (it was a leased vehicle). The case sets out all of the depreciated value issue pretty well.

I found the case by just searching in the site "Mercedes Benz" then going down the cases.

Hope this helps.

John in Vancouver
awesome thanks!! need to find a Lawyer...
Old 07-19-2011, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by John 996 TT Cab
OK, found the case.

Do a search with Google on BC Supreme Courts. There you will find the ability to do a case search.

The Case is "Signorello v. Khan" and the case number is 2010 BCSC 1448. The judge awarded $16,000 for accelerated depreciation and also a small amount for loss of use (it was a leased vehicle). The case sets out all of the depreciated value issue pretty well.

I found the case by just searching in the site "Mercedes Benz" then going down the cases.

Hope this helps.

John in Vancouver
i'm surprised it was successful since the diminshed value borne by the leasing company, not the leaser. but still, good to know
Old 07-19-2011, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Targatoo
Not a lawyer here, but it would seem to me that you have to actually incur a loss in order to recover it. In other words, suppose the car is repaired tomorrow and is immediately appraised and listed for sale. Suppose that it sells the next day for $10,000 less than the appraised value. Then you can sue for $10,000.

Suppose on the other hand that the owner sells that car in 2023. A similar, clean car will probably only be worth $10-12k. What would the damaged car sell for? $0? $2K? Likely more. Therefore the owner would never sustained a loss of $10,000.

It's a crappy situation. Everyone loses.
Except for the bodyshop.
This is not a reasonable supposition. There is a real loss now that can be substantiated through appraisals. Should be an easy win but don't settle for too little out of court Zookie. He who demands his day in court does best.
Old 07-19-2011, 03:45 PM
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:46 PM
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I could be smoking but I did heard my friend in Vancouver sued for lost due to depreciation from collision.
Old 07-19-2011, 04:28 PM
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lawyer here , you need to read the policy and see what it says, It may specifically exclude the claim. If the policy is silent then maybe its worth a shot.
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Originally Posted by BT ZR1
lawyer here , you need to read the policy and see what it says, It may specifically exclude the claim. If the policy is silent then maybe its worth a shot.
i dont think would matter as i got hit... Im not sueing "my" Insurance. Im sueing the Person who hit me, his insurance and possibaly my Condo Building Right?
Old 07-19-2011, 04:42 PM
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not my area, but you cannot sue the person who hit you. No fault insurance in Ontario. Your claim is with your insurer and they would collect from the other owners insurer. But since they will only pay out for the repair, you would essentially have to sue your own insurer.
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Originally Posted by BT ZR1
not my area, but you cannot sue the person who hit you. No fault insurance in Ontario. Your claim is with your insurer and they would collect from the other owners insurer. But since they will only pay out for the repair, you would essentially have to sue your own insurer.
mmmm intresting makes sense... now if i were to Sue my Insurer they inturn will just Jack my Insurance Rate Up, no?
Old 07-19-2011, 06:32 PM
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My advice would be to track down a good lawyer with experience in the area who has all of the facts and then take it from there. Not sure exactly how no fault works, nor whom you should go after. You need to weigh up the costs of the claim and your time vs the loss in value.
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Originally Posted by Hyper911
My advice would be to track down a good lawyer with experience in the area who has all of the facts and then take it from there. Not sure exactly how no fault works, nor whom you should go after. You need to weigh up the costs of the claim and your time vs the loss in value.
+1 best advice yet. GLWL.
Old 07-20-2011, 10:19 PM
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I agree with Hyper911 - you need to weigh up costs of claim and your time versus the loss in value.

The car (a high end Merc) in that BC case was stated to be worth $210,000! According to the Canadian Black Book, the average asking price of a 2004 C4S is $31,950 (which sounds like a pretty good deal to me, but I'm biased as I own one). If is being repaired by Pfaff, they will do a great job on it I'm sure, and it won't even be noticeable that it was hit.

I can't imagine that your time isn't worth more than pursuing this claim. The amount that you will have to put up in up-front legal fees will easily eclipse any possible gain, and even if you get costs on the victory, it likely won't make you whole - and no lawyer will do this on contingency, it's too small. Also, are you prepared to wait about 3 years for resolution?

Just move on, life's too short.
Old 07-21-2011, 07:42 AM
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It might be interesting to look at your policy to see if it's excluded. If it's not you could bring small claims court action . Find me a low mileage c4s for 50 k and I will do it for you
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Originally Posted by BT ZR1
Find me a low mileage c4s for 50 k and I will do it for you
you mean like this one? http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Porsche/9...o/19_4173855_/


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