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Old 11-09-2010, 03:25 AM
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Default Oil Advertising- Castrol Synthetic 8 X better than Mobil 1

So I was just watching the speed channel, and a Castrol Synthetic oil commercial
comes on, and they say "8 times more protection than Mobil 1"

Can they legally false advertise, or is it really 8 times better?
Old 11-09-2010, 09:21 AM
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2x cheaper
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Originally Posted by JDSStudios
So I was just watching the speed channel, and a Castrol Synthetic oil commercial
comes on, and they say "8 times more protection than Mobil 1"

Can they legally false advertise, or is it really 8 times better?
it probably does offer 8 times more protection using a certain metric.

they're not allowed to advertise it as such otherwise. and they wouldn't if they couldn't get away with it. think about how letigious the states are.
Old 11-09-2010, 06:42 PM
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Not only that but anyone that has worked in advertising can tell you about the hurdles to get ads approved for airing. Wonder what the ZDDP levles are?
Old 11-09-2010, 09:38 PM
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If you check their website you will see that the 8X claim is based on one industry test, (Sequence IVA test), which does not pertain to most current engine designs... The test data does not indicate if there is any advantage as far as actual reduced wear from having an 8X test duration vs. simply passing the IVA test sequence. It's a pass/fail test. So 8X pass = pass.

This is sort of akin to an air filter company that claims their air filter flows 500% more air than an OE Porsche air fliter, but with the OE Porsche filter not causing any flow restriction to the induction system, the potentially higher flowing air filter does exactly nothing but empty your wallet.

If it sounds too good to be true... it is.
Old 11-09-2010, 11:26 PM
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Oil and metal is compulcated. The ideal is a lubricant barrier between the bearing surfaces and guess what? It doesn't exist. IMO the best approach is frequent changes of filters and oils. How you abuse the surfaces determines the interval of exchange. Personally I go for frequent changes.
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Amsoil...check it out for those who have not heard or used it. I swear by it.
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Originally Posted by DeAd-EyE
it probably does offer 8 times more protection using a certain metric.

they're not allowed to advertise it as such otherwise. and they wouldn't if they couldn't get away with it. think about how letigious the states are.
Omar I would be curious to know what specifics does that metric entitle; 8 times of what? It could be a lot, if it has to do with wear prevention of surface materials.

Where is Macster? Sincerely.

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What matters in most of our cars is ZDDP. I called Castrol and they wouldn't tell me what levels are in the new Edge product so I wouldn't consider it for my car. They did indicate the Syntec 20w-50 has a minimum 1200 ppm ZDDP, which is the same level as the M1 15W-50. However, it's a little thick for our cold climate. According to our on-line survey, about 85% of the rennlist guys with 993tt's use the latter. M1 V Twin 20W-50 has 1600 ppm and lots of guys in the US use it for that reason even though it's motorcycle oil.
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ZDDP is only one anti-wear additive. There are many.
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Originally Posted by beentherebaby
ZDDP is only one anti-wear additive. There are many.
Maybe but according to the many threads on this topic - see the 993 Turbo forum, ZDDP is the only one that matters.



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