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Old 06-03-2010, 01:12 PM
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I'm curious. I was told that a well sorted GT3 in reasonably stock form on R comp tires could do 'bogie in about 2:16

What could a C2 do it in?

It's more a comparison between the GT3 and C2... Curious how far the C2 is from the GT3 in it's capability.

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Old 06-03-2010, 03:06 PM
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2:16 in a real good sorted out driver!, just guessing but the same driver that runs that would probably run a 2:20 -2:22 in a C2 with R comps
Check out here though for some comparisons.
http://www.racedv.net/Vehicle/

Personally I ran a 2:30 with a 996 C4S on street tires. While Farzan ran a 2:26 in a 997.1 GT3. Which I would believe is a well sorted out GT3.
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One of the guys I was up with two weeks ago was running 2:17.0 with a completely stock 996 GT3 on new pilot sport cups. Car was setup by fiorano but other than that, all stock components. He didn't even have harnesses!
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There is only a .5 - 1 sec difference between a 996 GT3 and a 997 GT3. That driver though is sorted out, knows the track and his car very well.
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There is 80hp difference or so from a 996 GT3 and a 997 C2.

The GT3 has a more track oriented suspension and revs higher. There is less understeer with a 996 GT3.

A 996 stock GT3 at 2:16/2:17 is moving. Really moving.

That's Bruce's time.

I'd say if you were under 2:24 you'd be doing well.
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I'm curious. I will have to find some way of having a spectator (wink wink) keep track of my time next time around...

On another note Chris, tracked down the PCA rep in the US and she has finally processed my membership!
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Here's a lap in a 997 GT3 - not timed, but interesting to watch. Keith is driving, having fun, not taking it too seriously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL0TDO5b2yA

this is a more serious attempt.

http://www.racedv.com/u/Keithc/169/
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Last year me and my buddy both did 2:20 on our motorcycle (zx6rr and cbr600rr).. after many days of practice
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck

I'd say if you were under 2:24 you'd be doing well.
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.....anything under 2:30 is VERY respectable.

Next time you're there, talk to George the owner of Turn2 about:CMP lap timing
He has set up a complete trackside timing system for bikes. I believe it's for hire on cars as well.

Not sure whether CMP lapping days will condone it though.....
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I'm really curious now. Thinking of picking a timer up for the next day.
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Oh and that is with Michelin Pilot Sport Cups. On street tires add a few seconds.

Here's Bruce in his 996 GT3 http://www.calabogiemotorsports.com/...138&video_id=3
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I drive a stock 997 C2 (except -1.5 camber) with street tires. My best time this year (intermediate driver & not taking it too seriously) is 2:30. I used a iPhone laptimer app, and I do not know how accurate it is; it is GPS-based. Seems ok to me for casual use. I don't know how much R comps would improve things. Hope to see you at the track soon,

cheers, Rob
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My best time ever in my 987 Boxster-S with street tires was just around 2:34 - more typical times were closer to 2:40 ... taking the new-to-me 997 C2S Cab and street tires out for the first time last fall my best lap was about 2:30'ish (edit ... checked my notes and it was 2:31 and change) but I was being careful to not push too hard as I was feeling out the new vehicle ... I'll be playing with MPSC's on Wed this week ... should be fun.

I think I know the track reasonably well but I'd say I'm only an intermediate driver.

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Originally Posted by acadian_dad
the new-to-me 997 C2S Cab and street tires out for the first time last fall my best lap was about 2:30'ish but I was being careful to not push too hard as I was feeling out the new vehicle ... I'll be playing with MPSC's on Wed this week ... should be fun.

I think I know the track reasonably well but I'd say I'm only an intermediate driver.
Try not to emulate Randy's result when pushing for a good (better) time....


Have fun!!
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Who do you guys all run with? I'm there at many of the CMP days done with Entrack and might hit up a PCA day (except I'll have to either install another racing seat or revert to stock seats).

Wouldn't mind putting some faces to screen names...


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