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Old 12-22-2009, 01:33 AM
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Rod was this paralegal Sean?
Old 12-22-2009, 07:56 AM
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Looks like Rod settled and it's over ... but at least now he can put it behind him .....

Well off I go workin for the man again .. have a great day guys ..
Old 12-22-2009, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by theiceman
no it goes to date of offense ... not conviction .. that is why you delay it ..
Clive, I think you've got that backwards - the reason you delay the trial as long as possible is because the charge gets entered on the day you get convicted, not the date of the offence. If it got dated to the date of offence, there'd be no point delaying it.
Old 12-22-2009, 10:03 AM
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You guys realize the 'judge' really isn't a judge. They're Justices of the Peace - trained bureaucrats but have never been to law school and are not lawyers.

Our system is designed for maximum revenue generation, not our safety.

The nephew of a friend of mine was killed 2.5 years ago by being run down and burned on his motorcycle by a driver who has employed every delay tactic known. The man died while his wife watched. The driver's defence was that he was 'sleepwalking' and the Crown wanted to drop the charges. The cops wanted nothing to do with charging the guy who, by the accounts of witnesses, was angry about something and deliberately steered into the motorcycle, crossing lanes. His vehicle wasn't taken away nor was his licence suspended. Yet, when we go 20km/h over the pace of normal traffic flow on a 4 lane divided highway our licence is taken away, vehicle towed and impounded etc.

Justice? There is no justice in our justice system. It's all about the $$$.

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Old 12-22-2009, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbodan
Rod was this paralegal Sean?
Yes. Good guy. Not sure if we had a chance even if he had all of t's crossed.
Maybe he works at KFC. Not sure. LOL
Old 12-22-2009, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Christien
Clive, I think you've got that backwards - the reason you delay the trial as long as possible is because the charge gets entered on the day you get convicted, not the date of the offence. If it got dated to the date of offence, there'd be no point delaying it.
The charges become official on the day that you are convicted in court but the date of record for the offence remains the date of the offence.
IMO, the main reason for delaying is either to shield the offence as long as possible from the insurance company or to hope for a case dismissal citing 11(b) of the Charter of rights (to be tried within a reasonable time) as Giacomo clarified above.

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Old 12-22-2009, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Lue
The charges become official on the day that you are convicted in court but the date of record for the offence remains the date of the offence.

IMO, the main reason for delaying is either to shield the offence as long as possible from the insurance company or to hope for a case dismissal citing 11(b) of the Charter of rights (to be tried within a reasonable time) as Giacomo clarified above.
So my insurance becomes clear 2 years from which date?

But I'm not guilty!
Old 12-22-2009, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 911 Rod
So my insurance becomes clear 2 years from which date?
The date you got the ticket is the date of record.
I thought the insurance companies used 3 years not 2, maybe someone could clear that up.
Old 12-22-2009, 12:08 PM
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Insurance companies use 3 years, MTO uses 2.
Old 12-22-2009, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Lue
The date you got the ticket is the date of record.
I'm 99% sure that the date of conviction is the date of record, not the date the ticket was issued.
Old 12-22-2009, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Christien
I'm 99% sure that the date of conviction is the date of record, not the date the ticket was issued.
Would make sense to me but it would be nice ......
Old 12-22-2009, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbodan
Rod was this paralegal Sean?
Do you know of him?
Old 12-22-2009, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by theiceman
Looks like Rod settled and it's over ... but at least now he can put it behind him .....
You can still have the Case Re-Opend and taken Care of...
Old 12-22-2009, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Christien
Clive, I think you've got that backwards - the reason you delay the trial as long as possible is because the charge gets entered on the day you get convicted, not the date of the offence. If it got dated to the date of offence, there'd be no point delaying it.
No Christien I do not have it wrong ... the reason you delay it is that it does NOT GO ON YOUR RECORD until you are convicted. But the actual offense is dated to the date you did the offense. Delaying the date as much as possible , for example in Rods case he could have changed insurance companies etc as it did not show as he was not actually convicted .
Once convicted it is on his license from 2 years from date of offense , so now less than a year from now he will have a clean license again ....


I think we may be on the same side of the point
Old 12-22-2009, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Christien
I'm 99% sure that the date of conviction is the date of record, not the date the ticket was issued.
go with the 1% on this one guys no one has more experience with this than me .... unfortunately. Took a clip from one of my many letters

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