My understanding is that if they feel that there is sufficiet evidence to lay charges, you are toast.
At least that's what the cop told me when ............ and my lawyer told me..... even after an absolute discharge.
Best of luck Zookie.

 

Fine, I''ll get elected with huge promises of tax cuts and other things just like McGinty and then not do any of those things i promised and just work on our traffic laws. In reality, if traffic were better, people would be happier and spend more money thus giving the economy a boost. There would also be less crimes becuase people would love each other better.

 

You're probably 100% right.

 

Hey Justin - Halton folks have expressed to the Head Cop and the Politicians that traffic is their number one concern. You could be on to something, fantastic - improved safety, better training - no no no - just make the QEW bigger so my commute is faster. No one in Govt cares (I asked them). The key measurement they use is deaths and the slower they make us go and the safer our cars are, the less deaths - perfect. And of course the need for enforcement makes the police forces bigger, the Chief more important and just look at the revenue.

 

As much as we all would like things better on the roads but the common denominator gets in the way. I'm pretty sure you know who I mean. They either just got their license or had one for seventy five years, or the angry driver who freaks out because someone looked at them sideways or the guy working out his failed marriage, or the mom on a cellphone. Realistically the speed limit should be 5 kph with a mandatory flagman.

 

Agreed 100%

Well, you're obviously in a much higher income bracket than the vast majority of the population. Most people nailed under this law are likely not going to drive again. In fact I'll bet several people have lost their cars due to inability to make their car payments, afford the gas, etc. Something gov'ts rarely consider is the fact that you can only squeeze so much money out of people. The majority of people in this country live cheque to cheque, and even then can barely (if at all) afford their lifestyles. You can't just slap them with a $3000 fine and expect them to continue their lives as if it were just a minor hiccup. It wouldn't surprise me if some people have been forced into bankruptcy from these kinds of charges. Not at all to say they shouldn't be held responsible for their actions - we all know the rules and, no matter how unfair, know we have to obey them. But there comes a point when our leaders stop doing things to benefit society as a whole and instead become more like feudal lords, beating their serfs into submission through relentless "taxation".

 

Whoa, for punishment the Finnish system has fines pegged to your income so that proportionately the fine can really hurt. Our roads are a mess, the drivers suck and there is no discipline and drivers just go where they want. Cops should follow the Dutch example and start nailing left lane hogs with a significant fine. Double that one for the drivers who use the merge lanes as passing lanes and triple the fines for redlight runners. The Dutch cop cars are neat, you can't pick them out at all. 50 over and you surrender your license and apply to get it back. Aggressive driving means you enrol into defensive driving school for three days at drivers expense of $1200. Driving is quite orderly there, but quick with highways posted at 125.

 

The stats would actually tell you that there are many more fatalities as a result of impaired driving, running red lights / going through stop signs, improper left turns, inattentiveness, etc. than doing 150 on 100 kph freeways, especially when the flow of traffic is already 125 - 135.

I agree there should be fines for speeding and they should get commensurately more punitive, but imo the current law is a) way out of wack with other HTA fines, particularly given the above b) it gives way too much unchecked power to the police and c) guilty until proven innocent is fundamentally wrong.

... it does play well to the media and public though and it is a great new source of income for gov't coffers. But when a law trips up approximately 6,000 otherwise law-abiding citizens in one year, something is wrong.

 

wong for who ? that would be us , and we don't count, what is right and wrong for the government is all that matters. That is why I voted for Mike HAris a few years back , he got it ! got voted in on kicking out photo radar as the 519/905 area code was being taxed to death on the 401 with it .

 

To be quite honest, i spend so much of time time scanning for cops that i have probably raised the potential for me to have an accident. Everyone speeds including cops. I remember seeing an off duty cop on cops who got into his car and had a radar detector on this window. Whenerver people see a cop, what is their first reafction? Slam on the brakes (speeding or not as most people don't know their exact speed at all times.) i don't think speeding to a point is dangerous. i think dangerous driving is dangerous. Those of us that speed and know how to drive anticipate what is happening in front of us and adjust our speed as necessary. As such, there should not be an increases in insurance premiums or a reduction of point for safe speeding. Just a fine cause all it is is a tax.

The reality is we all speed and how many of us our in accidents? I have been driving for 21 years and have never had an at fault accident, and the two minor fender benders have been in parking lots. In my younger years, I used to drive like a maniac. I am sure many here are the same. The govenment and the insurance companies are just in it to screw us.

Zook, I agree with you. The things in place to curb drinking and driving and speeding will not work. they are just a cash grab.

 

Add me to the list. When I first started driving I was a *****, but within a year I remember seeing if I could bury the needle on my dad's Honda Accord. I got it to 200 and change on the 401, but wimped out after that. When I first got my 911 I had fun playing with 5000+rpm in 4th gear at night on the 403 - speedo was broken so I had no idea how fast I was going, but since it's been fixed I've learned that's about 150-160. A few years of track driving has curbed that desire for speed and knocked some sense into me. I've had one accident in my life, not my fault, girl slid on snow and hit me. I did rear-end a cab once, but that was in heavy traffic and I was staring at ***** on a billboard No damage and we both drove away.

 

And if you do have a serious accident, expect them to F you over large! They will try and tear you apart ie "Is an electric wheelchair necessary?"

 

well thats just it Brad , they want there cake and eat it too. They want the premiums and never want to give out. THAT will never change

 

lolz i am sure someone there is living life because of our Premiums...

 

... and I'm sure there are peeps for the Insurance industry on this board but choose to remain quiet.