Onami

Multiple stab wounds - no one died. If someone has never been in this sort of situation in real life, they can't fathom how easy it is to use too much force. We aren't talking about point fighters. These are hard-style Kyokushinkia type fighters - 5th Dan and 3rd Dan. I'm just glad that I wasn't there that night.

rensoyka

knives are considered lethal weapons. the news is full of police shooting a person who refused to drop the knife. corner me in my house holding a knife I will shoot you.

IXLR8

The trouble with living in a nanny state like Canada is we do not have a Stand You Ground Law.

Onami

And you'll go to jail for some amount of time if they haven't cut you. I'm not saying that I wouldn't do the same thing. The crux will be what were they doing with the knife when you shot them.

.2PDK

Fascinating, in the mid 90s we all worked as doormen and I'll be the first to confirm how easily situations can get out of control.

The funny thing back then was even though some ended up in the hospital nobody was ever charged with anything, a few interviews and that was it.

.2PDK

So the onus would be on you to prove they were coming at you before you shot them?

Cameras could be your enemy or friend I guess...

rensoyka

lethal force equals no witnesses. my word rules the case.

Onami

That's where your lawyer comes in! You would need to prove what their intent was. Some of the best stories are from the bouncer days. Almost all of my friends from back in the day could fight well (Judo, Boxing, Karate, Weapons and Aikido backgrounds). My one buddy was an excellent boxer with a steel jaw. He tossed a guy early in the night for being drunk and unruly. 2 am and he is walking to his car and the same guy comes staggering up to him (this is Hamilton too). He figures a quick shove aside and then he'll get into his car and move on. Just as he is about to grab the guy's arm, the guy straightens up, stone cold sober and hits Colin with a right hook. He said he felt that he was just about to go out, but thankfully he recovered. The guy poked the wrong bear and Colin finished him off

I started training at 9 and finished full time when I was 38 (broke my cheekbone and cracked my eye socket - but it never knocked me out!). I still train at 62 (last week) - but mostly Kata and weapons now because they are easier on this old body!

.2PDK

Ahh the good old days, Burlington/Hamilton was pretty bad, Oakville had it's moments as well but that's history now...lol

Onami

The funny thing is, I didn't think it was that bad. When my kids hear the stories that my buddies and I tell, they can't believe them. I thought everybody had a bomb set-off under their cafeteria table in high school LOL! True story!!!

RonnyC

I was looking at a Turbo S and you what entered my mind... I really don't want to put myself or my family in any potential danger.... can you believe its come to the point, for me anyways, that purchasing a sports car I am concerned at getting robbed at gun point.... where the hell do we live?!

.2PDK

We live in a Liberal utopia for criminals...but you knew that.

moab

you can’t use a firearm for self defense in your home.

that’s the law.

but I would definitely break the law if my family was in danger and use of my firearms.

RealityGT

This city will become a cesspool under Chow's socialist dream.. The GTA is great.

SToronto

If they were so trained and able to disarm the assailants of their knives, they seem like they had the situation somewhat under control. To then turn around and use the knives on the assailants to inflict multiple stab wounds, sounds like it went too far in a form of retaliation. Obviously not privy to the court case but some surface thoughts.

In the MIlton situation, the resident fired one shot. He did not shoot a second time or third time, each time making worse for himself if they were not necessary. 4 against 1 (not including the mother), intruder had a firearm and attacked the mother.

Point being in a situation, you may not react as prudently as you think you would out of the situation.