928gt

You've misunderstood my point. I am not saying that the gas you'll be getting will not contain 10% Ethanol. I am saying that the average Ethanol content someone sells across all types / grades has to contain 10% Ethanol, not each and every liter of any one specific type or grade they sell. If the pump sells other grades that contain more than 10% Ethanol, they can offset selling gas with less than 10% Ethanol so that the overall volume sold across all types / grades does not contain less than 10% Ethanol on average.

IXLR8

I got that but I'll test it anyway in my spare time.

I always like to see an official government document.

928gt

Se my earlier post (#6) in this thread for links to the relevant Ontario legislation (https://rennlist.com/forums/rennlist...l#post18469226).

rileyracing1

The reality is Shell or their operators haven't gotten around to it ....Lets face it to almost everyone except us enthusiasts could care less about some cut in their fuel. Like I had mentioned before ... Shell was excellent fuel in the 80's and Sunoco 94 was even better .... I use to put $500 a week back then just in my offshore race boat excluding my cars and bikes. Shell is still decent fuel but not what it used to be and the same goes for now Petro 94 and since both now have ethanol I will still continue to go with 94 over Shell as you may as well get the highest octane possible.

ekam

So PetroCan 94 is the best fuel available now? I noticed a drop in fuel economy now with Shell 91 with 10% ethanol...

928gt

Ethanol has less energy per volume than gasoline (about 30-40% less), so all other things being equal, 10% Ethanol content in gasoline would in theory result in an overall 3-4% mileage decrease.Some pumps are already switching to an even higher Ethanol content... so yes, expect a ~5% decrease in fuel economy... in addition to an overall increase in GHG emissions by about 30% as Ethanol production actually results in more CO2 pollution than burning gasoline, an increase in the cost of fuel as it costs more to make it than to extract and distill gas, and an increase in food prices because an ever increasing number of farmers are now growing (government subsidized) corn instead of food.

canuck964

In other words, like other mindless government mandates, it makes perfect sense to enforce increase in Ethanol content.

steam_mill

Interestingly, to add fuel to the fire, a gas station on the way to the cottage called Gen7 no longer has marine gas on their website. They used to sell no ethanol marine fuel....Bet you that is gone too. I'll check on next trip to cottage.

Bud Fox

928gt still wears a mask

Brian 162

I found this today in Amherst N.Y.
Delta Sonic has ethanol free gas with an octane rating of 90.

928gt

Well, I am Batman so it is part of the costume... unless you mean a surgical mask, which I only wear when I have to go near you and I don't have the cattle prod with me.
Are you spun or did you quit your medication again?

IXLR8

As usual, comparing low grades since that is what our signs show, their gas is always about 24 cents cheaper per liter than ours. Guess where I fill up and Justin, you can stick that carbon tax where the sun doesn't shine.

ekam

Anyone tried this new Shell V-Power NiTRO+? It doesn't appear to reduce ethanol content...

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/driv...cy-because-ev/

https://www.shell.ca/en_ca/drivers/m...-gasoline.html

928gt

Oh wow! "The company says its V-Power Nitro+ road gasoline contains 99 per cent of the same compounds found in the racing fuel used in Ferrari cars on the F1 circuit." Really? We contain 99% of the same DNA that monkeys do... that says a lot about who this is targeted at.

It is 100% a marketing gimmick by Shell. There's absolutely nothing of any value to anyone (except Shell) here.

RDMcG

Would be interesting to see an updated test. I use Shell V power because it’s the nearest gas station and I get the CAA discount but could switch if there is some current benefit.