Shell VPower - Now w/Ethanol
05-17-2024, 10:26 AM
#91
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05-17-2024, 01:11 PM
#92
Race Car
Regardless of what the sign at the pump says (by this I mean the brand), for as long as it's tier-1 gasoline the gas itself for all of them comes from the same depots. In other words, the gasoline is the same... if the driver of the tanker truck is going to deliver fuel to a Shell station instead of an Esso, he pushes the "Shell" button and the tiny amounts of additives that go in the fuel get squirted in according to the Shell formula instead of the Esso formula. It is akin to having a giant tank of cola, and if you want Coke, you get the cola with A grams of sugar added and carbonated to level X... if you want Pepsi, you get B grams of sugar added (which numerically is very close to A) and carbonated to level Y (which again is numerically very close to level X). That's the only difference.
05-17-2024, 01:38 PM
#93
Burning Brakes
Small point but as an ex-Coke marketing executive, that's not quite how it works. Each product has all of its ingredients in the syrup. Carbonated water is the only other ingredient. Fun fact - if I recall correctly, one can mix cola and orange pop and get root beer. Each company's products were exclusive to each outlet. There were never any outlets offering both Coke and Pepsi products. Should we not be most interested in the amount of corn juice and stabilizers used to ameliorate the negative effects?
Back when I was a kid, my dad used to tell me that there were only two people in the world that knew the exact formula for Coca-Cola and they they were never allowed to fly on the same plane. I don't know if there is any truth to that, but I am definitely aware that the exact composition is proprietary and a closely guarded secret.
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05-17-2024, 09:40 PM
#94
Drifting
Seems like something that would be very difficult to properly gauge? Could have been just that one pump?
I have the exact opposite experience. In my old 997.2 Turbo, I always got the worst experience with Shell. Petro 94 was the best. I now use Chevron 94 and it is great.
I have the exact opposite experience. In my old 997.2 Turbo, I always got the worst experience with Shell. Petro 94 was the best. I now use Chevron 94 and it is great.
Apparently chevron 94 is really good in BC. Each province is different as the fuel is made at different refineries.
05-17-2024, 09:43 PM
#95
Drifting
Regardless of what the sign at the pump says (by this I mean the brand), for as long as it's tier-1 gasoline the gas itself for all of them comes from the same depots. In other words, the gasoline is the same... if the driver of the tanker truck is going to deliver fuel to a Shell station instead of an Esso, he pushes the "Shell" button and the tiny amounts of additives that go in the fuel get squirted in according to the Shell formula instead of the Esso formula. It is akin to having a giant tank of cola, and if you want Coke, you get the cola with A grams of sugar added and carbonated to level X... if you want Pepsi, you get B grams of sugar added (which numerically is very close to A) and carbonated to level Y (which again is numerically very close to level X). That's the only difference.
Sorry this is not true, additives are not added by truck drivers, this all done at the plants. My close friend is an operator at these plants and makes these fuels.
05-18-2024, 08:40 AM
#97
Burning Brakes
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05-18-2024, 04:14 PM
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05-19-2024, 12:36 PM
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I used to put nothing but Chevron 94 in my 911s and motorcycles (sport bikes in my invincible youth, Harleys now). Now that the no ethanol factor is gone, I use Shell 93 mostly but still some Chevron 94. With my current 911 being modern and stock I don't have much concern. Both Harleys have been tuned to the 120hp range at the wheel (stock is 81-83) so when I tried the Shell 93 I was very conscious to listen for any detonation. Nothing.
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