Ethanol
11-17-2022, 08:24 AM
#32
Burning Brakes
I am most worried about fuel lines that were not designed for ethanol.
Quote from Globe & Mail article:There are four problems with ethanol:
1.) It is corrosive when in contact with certain materials in fuel storage and delivery systems, including some rubber compounds and the zinc and aluminum alloys used in carburetors.
2.) Because it is an alcohol, ethanol dries out the rubber components in a fuel system. This leads to cracking and brittle fuel lines, floats, seals and diaphragms.
3.) Ethanol is hygroscopic – it likes water. Water enters fuel containers when they are filled up. Once in the gasoline, it forms a chemical mix that causes corrosion of internal parts. As the fuel level in a tank or container drops, water condenses on the cool surfaces of the vessel, drops and runs down into the fuel where the ethanol welcomes it.
4.) It acts as a solvent in older engines, dissolving the varnish and other deposits in tanks and lines. These then are carried to the carburetor or injection system where they can clog the small orifices involved.
Quote from Globe & Mail article:There are four problems with ethanol:
1.) It is corrosive when in contact with certain materials in fuel storage and delivery systems, including some rubber compounds and the zinc and aluminum alloys used in carburetors.
2.) Because it is an alcohol, ethanol dries out the rubber components in a fuel system. This leads to cracking and brittle fuel lines, floats, seals and diaphragms.
3.) Ethanol is hygroscopic – it likes water. Water enters fuel containers when they are filled up. Once in the gasoline, it forms a chemical mix that causes corrosion of internal parts. As the fuel level in a tank or container drops, water condenses on the cool surfaces of the vessel, drops and runs down into the fuel where the ethanol welcomes it.
4.) It acts as a solvent in older engines, dissolving the varnish and other deposits in tanks and lines. These then are carried to the carburetor or injection system where they can clog the small orifices involved.
12-02-2022, 09:51 PM
#34
Rennlist Member
12-04-2022, 04:03 AM
#37
Filled up at a Chevron in West Vancouver today. The old black and white sticker that said “no ethanol added” on the 94 octane pump was replaced with a larger full-color sticker proclaiming (in extra large print) Ethanol-free, for a bunch of benefits and something that caught my eye, ‘extra milage’.
Parkland Fuel, an Alberta company, has bought the Vancouver area Chevron refinery, most of the BC bulk fuel distribution and gas stations, to operate under the Chevron name. I like to think of the extra big stickers as the Alberta Park boy’s version of F, U, JT.
Parkland Fuel, an Alberta company, has bought the Vancouver area Chevron refinery, most of the BC bulk fuel distribution and gas stations, to operate under the Chevron name. I like to think of the extra big stickers as the Alberta Park boy’s version of F, U, JT.
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12-04-2022, 08:49 AM
#38
Three Wheelin'
Filled up at a Chevron in West Vancouver today. The old black and white sticker that said “no ethanol added” on the 94 octane pump was replaced with a larger full-color sticker proclaiming (in extra large print) Ethanol-free, for a bunch of benefits and something that caught my eye, ‘extra milage’.
Parkland Fuel, an Alberta company, has bought the Vancouver area Chevron refinery, most of the BC bulk fuel distribution and gas stations, to operate under the Chevron name. I like to think of the extra big stickers as the Alberta Park boy’s version of F, U, JT.
Parkland Fuel, an Alberta company, has bought the Vancouver area Chevron refinery, most of the BC bulk fuel distribution and gas stations, to operate under the Chevron name. I like to think of the extra big stickers as the Alberta Park boy’s version of F, U, JT.
Apparently, because the stuff is so bad, refiners don't put it in until just before shipping, so there is room for an independent to sell ethanol free
Last edited by reacp911; 12-04-2022 at 08:54 AM.
12-04-2022, 12:42 PM
#40
Ethanol has been around forever. Countries like Brazil have made use of it since the early days of the automobile, making it as a byproduct of their sugarcane industry. Trudeau is the one who wants to remove the last bit of choice we have to get a tiny fraction of fuel from our dead dinosaurs.
12-04-2022, 01:13 PM
#41
Three Wheelin'
Ethanol has been around forever. Countries like Brazil have made use of it since the early days of the automobile, making it as a byproduct of their sugarcane industry. Trudeau is the one who wants to remove the last bit of choice we have to get a tiny fraction of fuel from our dead dinosaurs.
Last edited by reacp911; 12-04-2022 at 01:14 PM.
12-04-2022, 09:26 PM
#42
Advanced
Canadian Tire in Grimsby, Ontario (Niagara Region) still has no ethanol in their 91 ....... I was there today and the sticker is in white now and bigger.
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12-05-2022, 02:55 PM
#45
Instructor
My fuel economy on any fuel with ethanol is significantly worse... 10-20% worse at least
Using Shell 91 until that's no longer an option
Using Shell 91 until that's no longer an option