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Old 11-16-2022, 11:32 PM
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This sucks if true. Might as well switch to Petro Can 94. At least I'll get an octane boost.
Old 11-17-2022, 08:24 AM
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I am most worried about fuel lines that were not designed for ethanol.
Quote from Globe & Mail article:There are four problems with ethanol:

1.) It is corrosive when in contact with certain materials in fuel storage and delivery systems, including some rubber compounds and the zinc and aluminum alloys used in carburetors.

2.) Because it is an alcohol, ethanol dries out the rubber components in a fuel system. This leads to cracking and brittle fuel lines, floats, seals and diaphragms.

3.) Ethanol is hygroscopic – it likes water. Water enters fuel containers when they are filled up. Once in the gasoline, it forms a chemical mix that causes corrosion of internal parts. As the fuel level in a tank or container drops, water condenses on the cool surfaces of the vessel, drops and runs down into the fuel where the ethanol welcomes it.

4.) It acts as a solvent in older engines, dissolving the varnish and other deposits in tanks and lines. These then are carried to the carburetor or injection system where they can clog the small orifices involved.
Old 12-02-2022, 09:33 PM
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I was at Costco today, they now have the 10% etahnol sticker at the premium pump
Old 12-02-2022, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian 162
I was at Costco today, they now have the 10% etahnol sticker at the premium pump
I too was at a Costco, the Queensway location and gave the pump and display a good going over. The 91 gas did not contain ethanol.
Old 12-02-2022, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by vetfever
I too was at a Costco, the Queensway location and gave the pump and display a good going over. The 91 gas did not contain ethanol.
the Shell where I bought no-eth fuel a little over a week ago, yesterday showed the 10% sticker. They're knocking them out one by one
Old 12-03-2022, 01:08 PM
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I topped up for winter storage last week and noticed my local shell (Ancaster) still says 0% ethanol on the premium.
Old 12-04-2022, 04:03 AM
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Filled up at a Chevron in West Vancouver today. The old black and white sticker that said “no ethanol added” on the 94 octane pump was replaced with a larger full-color sticker proclaiming (in extra large print) Ethanol-free, for a bunch of benefits and something that caught my eye, ‘extra milage’.

Parkland Fuel, an Alberta company, has bought the Vancouver area Chevron refinery, most of the BC bulk fuel distribution and gas stations, to operate under the Chevron name. I like to think of the extra big stickers as the Alberta Park boy’s version of F, U, JT.
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Old 12-04-2022, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jennifer911
Filled up at a Chevron in West Vancouver today. The old black and white sticker that said “no ethanol added” on the 94 octane pump was replaced with a larger full-color sticker proclaiming (in extra large print) Ethanol-free, for a bunch of benefits and something that caught my eye, ‘extra milage’.

Parkland Fuel, an Alberta company, has bought the Vancouver area Chevron refinery, most of the BC bulk fuel distribution and gas stations, to operate under the Chevron name. I like to think of the extra big stickers as the Alberta Park boy’s version of F, U, JT.
I hate ethanol as much as anyone, but it's use is worldwide, not attributable to J T. On the other hand, it some trudeau hater wanted to set up an ethanol free pump(s) here in the GTA I would be quite grateful

Apparently, because the stuff is so bad, refiners don't put it in until just before shipping, so there is room for an independent to sell ethanol free

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Old 12-04-2022, 08:56 AM
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In fact it was Stephen Harper's Conservative government who first mandated the use of ethanol in our fuels. Just in case you were wondering who to blame.
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Ethanol has been around forever. Countries like Brazil have made use of it since the early days of the automobile, making it as a byproduct of their sugarcane industry. Trudeau is the one who wants to remove the last bit of choice we have to get a tiny fraction of fuel from our dead dinosaurs.
Old 12-04-2022, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jennifer911
Ethanol has been around forever. Countries like Brazil have made use of it since the early days of the automobile, making it as a byproduct of their sugarcane industry. Trudeau is the one who wants to remove the last bit of choice we have to get a tiny fraction of fuel from our dead dinosaurs.
once a trudeau hater, always a trudeau hater, although I wonder if anyone has told him the stuff will destroy his 300SL

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Old 12-04-2022, 09:26 PM
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Canadian Tire in Grimsby, Ontario (Niagara Region) still has no ethanol in their 91 ....... I was there today and the sticker is in white now and bigger.
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:50 AM
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Wow, we're really punching above our weight in terms of oil consumption, aren't we? I knew we were up there, but not that up there.
Old 12-05-2022, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Christien
Wow, we're really punching above our weight in terms of oil consumption, aren't we? I knew we were up there, but not that up there.
That's ethanol consumption, not oil. We're really punching above our weight in subsidizing farmers who now grow corn for ethanol production instead of growing food.
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My fuel economy on any fuel with ethanol is significantly worse... 10-20% worse at least

Using Shell 91 until that's no longer an option


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