reacp911

This is true??? You're paying $700 for half an oil change? for 718's too?

Art gt3rs

Check your Owners manual ..the 4.1 L refill on an old change that I am talking about is on a naturally aspirated 4.0L 992GT3

Anakin Skywalker

My experience with my 997.2 tt is that if you drive through the winter then consider upping that during the winter months. Not sure about 992s but the secret about winter use 997s is that winter use engines tend to develop bore scoring at an alarming frequency. With my new motor I’m changing oil in the winter at 5k km. Maybe the 992s have better cylinder liners, and don’t have that problem.

One of the things I’ve learned from blowing my motor last winter is that Porsche oil change interval recommendations are not entirely driven by the best interests of the motor.

IXLR8

Strange because on my 3.8L NA engine in the GTS, I drain 8.0L. Does the GT3 have an extra oil tank like the 993?

IXLR8

Sort of like the PDK issue I have been reading about where a new (or maybe it is rebuilt) unit costs upwards of $25K. Now for a 911 that starts at US$106,100 where the dealer, Porsche NA and Porsche AG each need to make money, what does that car cost to produce? And they want US$25+K for a PDK. Really?

Anakin Skywalker

I think the oil change schedule fixed by the factory is driven by model maintenance costs, fleet environmental stats and good old planned obsolescence. When I was younger and did my oil changes myself I used to change it at 3k miles and the body of whatever I was driving fell apart long before the motor. Now I change the oil on my 997 and 993 at 5K km for that reason.

Odd that you should mention the PDK.

As it turns out my PDK was the first thing to go (on my turbo). They didn’t have to replace the unit but it took 2 weeks to figure out all the weird dash lights. It is a very complicated transmission.

To be fair to Porsche they offer the best warranty I have ever heard of (extendable up to 13 years from the factory) and I have always had great service at their dealers, so this should not be taken as a complaint.

IXLR8

And what would that warranty cost?

I always believe in buying a quality vehicle with a great track record and worry less about the warranty.

Art gt3rs

Yes on the oil tank, 1 plug from the oil tank, 1 from the motor = 4.1L drain

Anakin Skywalker

My warranty cost me 2k this year, like each year. In March my 997.2 Turbo had bore scoring so Pfaff replaced the engine under that CPO. They gave me a loaner Cayenne for 7 weeks while the Gold technician there did the swap.

gcurnew

Agreed that frequent oil changes are the best defence for the possibility of scoring in a winter-driven 911. From October through April we only put on 5-6,000 KM, car is ALWAYS driven away (slowly) within 20 seconds of start-up, and lives in a heated underground garage. While most experts are of the mind that bore scoring isn't casue for concern on a 991.2 or later 911, I follow the same winter protocols I learned with my 996.1 and 997.2 to prevent bore scoring.

911 Rod

Do you change the filter every time?

Art gt3rs

I did a DIY oil change at about 5600 miles and I changed the filter. When I have the first service from the dealership, (at about 10,000 miles) they will change the filter also. From that point on, I plan on doing a midway (between dealership services) just changing the oil.

Sandecker

Any feedback on the PSMP - Porsche Service and Maintenance plan (Canada) - dealer is offering for $3175 + tax covers first 3 services/3 years - assuming this is basically a price protection plan and not really a savings but curious about others experience - I will service at dealer - picking up next week - turbo. SA says it's a 'good value' - hmmm.

gcurnew

My first two services at my Canadian dealer cost:

Ist year service: $345.81 including tax
2nd year service: $1172.17 including tax.

Total for the first two services was $1517.98 including tax. The third service is effectively just another oil change (same as service 1), so unless Turbo servicing costs are dramatically higher than other 992s the dealer "plan" you are being offered looks to me like a VERY bad deal.

dml

At least for my 991.1, year 3 includes new spark plugs and is fairly expensive.