CPO warranty and after market exhaust question
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Hi all - recently purchased a CPO 2020 718 Spyder. First Porsche and having a blast so far. The one area that could be improved is the exhaust and I have been researching and thinking about improving the exhaust sound to more of a 981 Spyder sound by swapping out the OAPs and replacing the back box. The OAPs have non monitored ceramic matrix OPFs which really muffle and limit the sound. the Back box also doesn't have a lot of stuff going on with it. The number one criticism on the 982 Spyder and GT4 is the exhaust so am hoping to deal with that.
Once hesitation is that the CPO Spyder has warranty until 2026. So while I want to improve the exhaust, I do not want to limit my engine/drive train warranty.
Does anyone from Canada have experience with installing after market exhausts and warranty issues/limitations? I should point out that I am not touching the headers and this will be strictly cat back stuff (look at me acting like I know what I am talking about lol! amazing what you can pick up after a couple of days on this interweb thingie...
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Once hesitation is that the CPO Spyder has warranty until 2026. So while I want to improve the exhaust, I do not want to limit my engine/drive train warranty.
Does anyone from Canada have experience with installing after market exhausts and warranty issues/limitations? I should point out that I am not touching the headers and this will be strictly cat back stuff (look at me acting like I know what I am talking about lol! amazing what you can pick up after a couple of days on this interweb thingie...
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i can tell you many many years ago Porsche was denying leaking RMS seal claims on 996s because of after market exhausts they claimed changed the back pressure of the engine. ( whether it actually does or not is irrelevant, point is warranty claims were denied) . More recently we had an entire engine fail and warranty denied because owner had some type of suspension controller modification.
My personal feeling is Porsche along with many companies will look for any excuse not to pay out and i would proceed very carefully. i Would go as far as ask at the dealer if they do exhaust upgrades and if it impacts CPO , if they say no , get it in writing on Porsche letterhead.
You can also do what some do and just switch the exhaust back when going for warranty claims, everyone's comfort level is different.
My personal feeling is Porsche along with many companies will look for any excuse not to pay out and i would proceed very carefully. i Would go as far as ask at the dealer if they do exhaust upgrades and if it impacts CPO , if they say no , get it in writing on Porsche letterhead.
You can also do what some do and just switch the exhaust back when going for warranty claims, everyone's comfort level is different.
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I have an AWE exhaust on my 2017 Macan with CPO until 2023. Since 2019 when I put the exhaust on... and noticeably loud, both DT Porsche, PCNT and Pfaff Markham have not noted it in the service work or warranty recalls as being modified.
I am going to revert back to stock exhaust prior to asking for extended warranty or trade-in
I am going to revert back to stock exhaust prior to asking for extended warranty or trade-in
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Theres dealer that install them for you.
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Should not be a warranty issue at all.
I had a 718 Spyder with Akrapovic system, car back. I don't touch headers. All my new ones have modded exhaust and dealer serviced.
Agree the stock exhaust needs changed.
I had a 718 Spyder with Akrapovic system, car back. I don't touch headers. All my new ones have modded exhaust and dealer serviced.
Agree the stock exhaust needs changed.
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I think you're fine, like most extended warranty companies, the exhaust is not a covered component to begin with, so modifying something that such a minor chance of mechanical recourse, you'll be fine.
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Same as above, wouldn't worry about it. I bought a CPO Macan from Pfaff a few years back that came with a modified exhaust (it is loud!) along with aftermarket springs and a few other modifications. Zero issues or questions when it came to warranty work which admittedly was pretty minimal.
My RS also has a Sharkwerks rear section and I had zero issues at PCNT during the major service prior to extending the CPO warranty another 2 years.
My RS also has a Sharkwerks rear section and I had zero issues at PCNT during the major service prior to extending the CPO warranty another 2 years.
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Hi all - recently purchased a CPO 2020 718 Spyder. First Porsche and having a blast so far. The one area that could be improved is the exhaust and I have been researching and thinking about improving the exhaust sound to more of a 981 Spyder sound by swapping out the OAPs and replacing the back box. The OAPs have non monitored ceramic matrix OPFs which really muffle and limit the sound. the Back box also doesn't have a lot of stuff going on with it. The number one criticism on the 982 Spyder and GT4 is the exhaust so am hoping to deal with that.
Once hesitation is that the CPO Spyder has warranty until 2026. So while I want to improve the exhaust, I do not want to limit my engine/drive train warranty.
Does anyone from Canada have experience with installing after market exhausts and warranty issues/limitations? I should point out that I am not touching the headers and this will be strictly cat back stuff (look at me acting like I know what I am talking about lol! amazing what you can pick up after a couple of days on this interweb thingie...
) TIA!
Once hesitation is that the CPO Spyder has warranty until 2026. So while I want to improve the exhaust, I do not want to limit my engine/drive train warranty.
Does anyone from Canada have experience with installing after market exhausts and warranty issues/limitations? I should point out that I am not touching the headers and this will be strictly cat back stuff (look at me acting like I know what I am talking about lol! amazing what you can pick up after a couple of days on this interweb thingie...
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No stock exhaust came with the car...
Only dealer I have had issues with is PCNT, I shipped my new Cayene directly from PCNT to Pfaff Tuning for H and R springs and spacers, PCNT would not consider it....
On my GT4 Pfaff Tuning also installed camber plates, toe links, Soul exhaust, Girodisc, etc, no problem....
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PCNT is the worst for any modifications.
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Had no issue with my RS at PCNT which is lightly modded including Sharkwerks exhaust and a few other things. Based on their reputation I was somewhat worried as they were doing the major service required for the CPO warranty extension... but zero issues at all.
Perhaps the situation has changed or I just had a good Service Advisor...
Perhaps the situation has changed or I just had a good Service Advisor...
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Originally Posted by LZRD GRN
My 991.2 GT3 was sold to me by Pfaff at 12 mos old, with CPO and a SharkWerks exhaust installed....
No stock exhaust came with the car...
Only dealer I have had issues with is PCNT, I shipped my new Cayene directly from PCNT to Pfaff Tuning for H and R springs and spacers, PCNT would not consider it....
On my GT4 Pfaff Tuning also installed camber plates, toe links, Soul exhaust, Girodisc, etc, no problem....
No stock exhaust came with the car...
Only dealer I have had issues with is PCNT, I shipped my new Cayene directly from PCNT to Pfaff Tuning for H and R springs and spacers, PCNT would not consider it....
On my GT4 Pfaff Tuning also installed camber plates, toe links, Soul exhaust, Girodisc, etc, no problem....
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I am willing to pay a little more with them because of an extensive multi year experience. I trust the team, and they have always delivered, no "screw ups".....
And they have great leverage with the vendors to get parts if you really need something in a hurry.
Totally satisfied customer.....
I do know some great Indys, Dirk at Mantis is fantastic!
While my car is under warranty, I do prefer to use the dealer based shops...
Cheers!
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Had no issue with my RS at PCNT which is lightly modded including Sharkwerks exhaust and a few other things. Based on their reputation I was somewhat worried as they were doing the major service required for the CPO warranty extension... but zero issues at all.
Perhaps the situation has changed or I just had a good Service Advisor...![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Perhaps the situation has changed or I just had a good Service Advisor...
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