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Old Feb 12, 2022 | 06:27 PM
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In the past week, the BBC talked about a breakthrough in fusion in the UK. It seems fusion is always 20 years away. If they could get it going, electricity would really almost be "to cheap to meter".

Not enough effort is being put into fusion. If there was a Manhattan project for fusion it could happen very quickly. If it were a weapon, governments would spare no expense, but I suppose a climate catastrophe is not incentive enough.
The ITER agreement exists already, if interested see the link:
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Old Feb 16, 2022 | 06:45 AM
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Old Feb 16, 2022 | 08:49 AM
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I don't think any of today's cars are going to become classics. Too many electronic/computer bits.

Porsche is always talking about how 70% of its cars on still on the road. Yeah, that works if most of the cars you built were manufactured in the last 10 years. If you said 70% of 914s or 356s were still on the road, you'd have something. Most of todays cars will be unfixable before they become classics.
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Old Feb 16, 2022 | 09:28 AM
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Old Feb 16, 2022 | 10:11 AM
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Looks like Toyota's looking out for the three pedal enthusiast.
https://insideevs.com/news/566896/to...-transmission/
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Old Feb 16, 2022 | 10:18 AM
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Old Feb 16, 2022 | 10:53 AM
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My wife drives our Tesla Model X mainly and as a daily driver and it has been great .... I find myself using it more lately simply due to the cost of fuel .... Electrics are great as daily drivers no question and the practically of them makes total sense .

Many places in Europe have adopted a hybrid or electric as the daily "commuter" vehicle and a secondary ICE car designated as the weekend pleasure car. Having both myself this is the perfect compromise and benefit of owning both.
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Old Feb 16, 2022 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rileyracing1
My wife drives our Tesla Model X mainly and as a daily driver and it has been great .... I find myself using it more lately simply due to the cost of fuel .... Electrics are great as daily drivers no question and the practically of them makes total sense .

Many places in Europe have adopted a hybrid or electric as the daily "commuter" vehicle and a secondary ICE car designated as the weekend pleasure car. Having both myself this is the perfect compromise and benefit of owning both.
the difference in running costs is massive. We stopped using a Range Rover Supercharged for cottage runs and instead use the Model Y. Basically the fuel savings more than pays for the car.

Never mind it'll never need brakes (though apparently the pads fall apart before they wear out), oil changes, spark plugs, etc...etc...

I genuinely just love driving it too. Fast, smooth, quiet... the new ones with structural battery and single piece front and rear castings as well as 20%-30% greater range will be even better. It's hard to overstate just how far ahead of the competition they are at building the perfect appliance...which is what 99.9% of the car/crossover market wants.

And once real performance cars start coming out (like Cayman EV) it'll be wild!
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If you are ever in Thornhill.... you are always welcome to come over for a beer!
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Old Feb 16, 2022 | 04:03 PM
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I read 80% of EV and hybrid buyers do not buy another one so they clearly don't suit most. When they make an EV SUV that is as big as an Edge, has a 600km range, refills in 3 minutes and is cheaper, I'll buy one. Maybe.

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Old Feb 16, 2022 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rileyracing1
My wife drives our Tesla Model X mainly and as a daily driver and it has been great .... I find myself using it more lately simply due to the cost of fuel .... Electrics are great as daily drivers no question and the practically of them makes total sense .

Many places in Europe have adopted a hybrid or electric as the daily "commuter" vehicle and a secondary ICE car designated as the weekend pleasure car. Having both myself this is the perfect compromise and benefit of owning both.
I guess it's just me, but I don't pay attention to gas prices and if you can afford a $150K car (isn't that the price of a Model X??), are you really going from foie gras to SPAM because gas is up 5 cents?? The reasoning just doesn't fly with me when you are spending over a hundred K on a car and you are trying to "save" money on the cottage run to Lake Joe, lol.

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Old Feb 16, 2022 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by moab
I guess it's just me, but I don't pay attention to gas prices and if you can afford a $150K car (isn't that the price of a Model X??), are you really going from foie gras to SPAM because gas is up 5 cents?? The reasoning just doesn't fly with me when you are spending over a hundred K on a car and you are trying to "save" money on the cottage run to Lake Joe, lol.
You're underestimating power of debt. It amazes me, too, but it is easier/cheaper to finance an expensive car, than the gas to keep it running.
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Originally Posted by moab
I guess it's just me, but I don't pay attention to gas prices and if you can afford a $150K car (isn't that the price of a Model X??), are you really going from foie gras to SPAM because gas is up 5 cents?? The reasoning just doesn't fly with me when you are spending over a hundred K on a car and you are trying to "save" money on the cottage run to Lake Joe, lol.
I don't either or at least I never really did but the EV thing has brought out this cheapness in me LOL I mean I revel in how cheap it is to run! It's kinda a new thing...

I guess I just don't like waste and will buy another watch with the $10K/year difference....

I mean it wouldn't stop me from buying an ICE car I wanted but I guess I just don't find any DD crossovers that compelling...though I would like my Stelvio Quadrifoglio back...
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Old Feb 16, 2022 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ekam
Also, EV is just an another piece of electronic or an appliance.

It's the same as the difference between an Apple watch and a Patek. One you throw away or trade it in for a new one every 2-3 years, the other you keep it for 100+ years.

There's no sense of craftmanship compare to a perfectly finished mechanical watch movement or V12 or Flat 12 motor.

It's just a matter of time before people do more of this...

https://youtu.be/DG9Izqp6WWU


https://jalopnik.com/this-is-a-porsc...-holes-5814011

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Old Feb 16, 2022 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by reacp911
I don't think any of today's cars are going to become classics. Too many electronic/computer bits.
Porsche is always talking about how 70% of its cars on still on the road. Yeah, that works if most of the cars you built were manufactured in the last 10 years. If you said 70% of 914s or 356s were still on the road, you'd have something. Most of todays cars will be unfixable before they become classics.
Good luck if today's ev's are still on the road in 10 years.
They'll just stop providing software updates/support like everything else today.
Or even better they'll update your car so the battery drains faster and you will be forced to buy a new one.

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