I'm bored with EV's
 

Is it just me, or are they all the same? Just boring vehicles and the only things people talk about is acceleration and range.

Tricky question.
I have driven EVs for years from the Mitsubishi MI-EV which showed up here as a Japan only demo car to the Teslas..four of them, Jag iPace, and two Taycans, the4S and the Turbo S.

I think there is a major generational difference emerging.

For people of my age who grew up with ICE cars, stick shifts, the sounds of highly tuned engines and even the smell of them, then the EV experience is a radical departure from what we all understood to be how performance cars were meant to be...from rumbling V8s to screaming Mezgers.

Then, the EV is a sort of bloodless experience. Also generationally is the need to be connected. I have a number of quite connected cars but do not use much of that technology. Yet there are many for which it is essential. I am not being judgemental here, just observing.

The future as always lies with the young. We have fewer people driving, more urbanization and the decline of the car as a kind of social lubricant. No need any more to have a car to meet people when you're 16. All you need is an iPhone. Now the car becomes and extension of the web.

Thus , at my age I can be that outlier who loves the isolation of an empty road, a fast car, the confidence in the engineering, the sound of the engine and the sure knowledge that the weakest component is myself. I have been enormously lucky to have had the experience of wonderful cars, track , trips , the knowledge of the sheer engineering genius of some of the cars I have owned,
and am well aware that this is one of the many technological evolutions that we humans experience.

I am a bit sad only that the bright line of engineering from Ferdinand Porsche designing cars in 1900 to the last of the GT cars in the next few years will leave Porsche less distinctive. There is a generation of innovation to come and I suspect it may well be from China. Fair enough.

It sure was a helluva lot of fun when it lasted, but I have a couple of exceptional cars still to go.

RDMcG - yeah, there's certainly that. I guess I just don't understand the appliance nature of EVs...they're one (or two) trick ponies and nothing that feels special about them. I get that vehicles are becoming less important but if they wanted to capture the attention of the true heart of the car world, they need to do something to appeal to the enthusiasts.

No need to fret, in a few years we will all be driven around by self-driving vehicles because insurance premiums will be too high for us pathetic hominids to afford.
Plus side, no more paying for and keeping vehicles in a garage that are unused 90%+ of the time.
The revolution is coming whether we like it or not.

Still an ICE guy, but I have driven tesla 3 & S and taycan.. not for me.
I do have a cyber truck on order, but who knows when that will come about. Oddly, I am intrigued with the E Hummer and hoping to test drive one in the coming months. Also interested in the E cayman and ultimately the E GT4..

I'm curious what the new Cayman/Boxster twins will be like as EVs. If the Mission R is any indication, they could actually be pretty cool.

Looking forward to my 1st EV.... i4M50. No subsidies.

Already playing the range game in my head to the 'top' of Blue Mountain and back.... 140km on secondary roads.... Will I make it there and back on one charge when it's -7C?

I saw a bunch of YouTube reviews on it that it's not a "M car" more like a "M sport" car..... if it handles close to a normal BMW I will be stoked.

I'm coming from a mk7 Golf TDI. Going from a 900km range, to a 320-400km range.

I wish Ontario would put more fast DC chargers North of Toronto....

In my ideal world, I'd drive an EV (Taycan/Tesla) everyday, and have an ICE fun car for track/weekend driving. To me, the idea of insane acceleration and it charging at home make it fun and convenient.

I've driven a Taycan CT 4, and I wouldn't call it boring.

I think they're a one trick pony too, and think the focus is all wrong...so many are aimed for that acceleration number, and maybe that's to grab EV market attention but what they need is range.
Driven the Taycan TTS, Teslas etc, fast no doubt but on the street there's only so many place to use any of it, missing the drama + fun. That said, Taycan is a world step ahead of Tesla, quality vs ...
EV's aren't the way forward, they'll have a percentage of the market but ICE will stay for quite a while I believe and the real 'solution' to all the greenies is hydrogen, either in modified ICE or as a conversion to electric drive via a cell or other tech

I agree. To me what makes a car and what differentiates them from each other is the engine but if they are now all batteries than they are all the same... I would look at the the EV car with a nice interior with the cheapest price, why pay $150,000 for a EV vehicle when it has similar batteries as the other cars.

In the future I think cars will not be things that we enjoy and cherish like we do with our Porsches. No more posters of them in our garages or hanging with your buds having a beer and admiring the EV in the front of you. As many have said, they will be appliances.
They go like stink, but what happens when they are regulated to the speed limit? (this is coming) All that power for nothing. It will be cool to accelerate to the speed limit in .5 seconds.

Theyll eventually turn into something like a subway that shows up at your door. You tell it where you want to go and get in and wait until the door opens.

And as said above, Insurance companies will force you into not driving your car at some point.

I'm not sure insurance companies want to do that...for many of us we have many cars, if we not longer have the ability to drive them, why have multiple cars/toy, just get 1 appliance...having multiple toys that pull good premiums for them, many just sitting in a garage waiting to be driving, thats a significant loss of premiums. Imagine losing premiums from some of the large collections, most of the cars just sit.
Realize there's some horrible drivers out there causing collisions regularly, but they also PAY for many years
Don't think its a clear cut issue

As has been alluded to many times, the car enthusiast, be it Porsche, Mustang, Japanese, 4x4, whatever is quickly collapsing. Cars are evolving to becoming not a car, but a transportation appliance that people will not give it a second thought. Just like some people use laundromats, others have washer dryer at home and still others have multiple laundry rooms, the same will happen quickly to transportation appliances. Some will own a transporter, others will just use what is there, be it a bus, uber car or an owned appliance.

This has happened to many different things.

Think of music. Remember album collections, CD's, making mix tapes. It was fun past time. Now, whip out your phone and you have access at little or no cost to every piece of music ever recorded.

Remember VHS collections. DVD collections?

How about shortwave and HAM radio - now you can just phone call your bestie anywhere on the planet.

We, as car enthusiasts see the EV revolution with sadness. We are a small and shrinking group........

I actually thought that by now, I would have been able to buy a cheap chinese transporter - no way I would spend the $$$ on a Tesla or Taycan or Polestar for what I deem to be just a boring washing machine......

Owned a lot of exciting cars. Still do. I really enjoy our Tesla Model Y. Perfect appliance for moving people and covering lots of miles. Incredibly cheap to run but also...I really enjoy driving it. It is quick, handles well (or at least has tons of grip), smooth powertrain. Really great highway mile crusher but will also decimate a winding country road.

I can't wait for the Macan EV as I can't imagine going back to ICE for a daily driver. It just feels archaic. Really interested in Cayman EV too if that new concept is anything to go by.

All that said, took the Range Rover Supercharged out the other ay and man that engine sounds good! But it'll be replaced with an EV...Lucid Gravity looks like it will be pretty awesome too!