reacp911

I spec'd keyless entry on my 718. I got it mainly because I didn't want my wife to laugh at me: " you paid so much and you don't even have keyless entry?" Had I known then what I know now, I would never have ordered it. For the 2022s it no longer allows you to open the trunks by waving your hand as it still says in the owner's manual. It has this really clunky fake plastic key rather than a button. The main drawback tho, is ease of theft.

Porsche does warn you that it is easier to steal a car with this feature, but I had no idea how easy.

All that is needed is someone to get within a couple of meters of you, send your fob a signal, and it completely spills its guts. The thief can then open your car with the intercepted information, and drive away.

You would think that some intelligent hand shaking between your fob and your car would solve this problem

I now have a faraday pouch, but this defeats the purpose, does it not?

Wonder if porsche, or anyone else is looking at solving this problem. Toyota apparently allows you to turn off your fob

lowbee

Hummm thanks for this post...... I ordered keyless entry and I can still cancel it. Can you post a pic of the clunky fake plastic key ? Thx.

This is what the description is on the configurator...and it says open front & rear trunk with KEY BUTTON ??

reacp911

The "key" is normally left in the car, but can be taken out by following a procedure outlined in the owners manual. There is a button for each trunk on the fob.

This "key" also makes me worried that some punk is going to think the key is in the ignition and all he needs to do is break the window to drive it away

Mikster

So if I turn off Keyless entry in my PCM (which is an option), then the key "knows" to not keep sending out a signal?
Or maybe the car stops polling for a key, and then then key has nothing to respond back to...hence, the key doesn't actively send out a signal and therefore no intercept possible.

M

reacp911

I'm not sure exactly how it works. Here is one thought experiment: a thief goes to your car and touches the door handle. The car sends out a signal. That signal is intercepted, and amplified, and received by your fob. Your fob says I'm at the car, open the door. That signal is intercepted and sent to the car. The door opens. The signal has been recorded, analyzed and now mimicked. The thief then starts the car and drives away.

lowbee

Ok, I am saving $770 on this option and canceling it

reacp911

Don't tell them because of a rennlist post. Dealers already think rennlist members are troublesome

Also, changing options can sometimes cause delivery to be delayed, often substantially

.2PDK

I called my dealer and told them all about you, name, address, height, etc.

They have passed this along to Porsche AG.

Sucks to be you...

reacp911

was hoping to get some more useful information

rjag2034

love the keyless entry on my gts4.0. No issues whatsoever. Does seem a bit strange if this is as easy as you say.

stelth23

I was wondering if you remove the "Fake" key and use the FOB to start the car instead doesn't that solve some of the problem?

Car needs something inserted into the ignition to start... they might be able to get in the car but can't start it. It is basically like removing the "button" to start the car.

reacp911

I've been doing some research since last week's articles in the Star about how easily current cars can be stolen.

Apparently for Audi, you can buy a firmware update that turns the remote on and off using the built in accelerometer. You tap the remote sharply to turn it off or on. Similarly, an update for Ford causes the remote to go to sleep if it has not been moved for a while, as in when it sits on a table in your house.

Manufacturers likely don't mind because it just means they sell another car.

reacp911

I haven't yet tried this, but again, it defeats the purpose of having spent the $770

Abe Evrens

LMAO -

reacp911

Perhaps porsche owners have nothing to worry about:

The most stolen vehicles in Canada for 2020:

1. 2018 Honda CR-V
2. 2017 Lexus RX
3. 2017 Honda CR-V
4. 2018 Lexus RX
5. 2018 Ford F-150
6. 2019 Honda CR-V
7. 2018 Toyota Highlander
8. 2017 Toyota Highlander
9. 2019 Lexus RX
10. 2017 Dodge Ram 1500