Porsche Keyless Entry
11-23-2021 | 01:03 AM
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^this
This theft method has been going on for years. Primarily from your driveway. At home, keep your keys away from the front door. Typically one person captures the signal from your front door while the other is at the car with a repeater that connects to the person at the door.
Most people keep their keys at the front door.
I wouldn't not spec the feature, it's handy!
This theft method has been going on for years. Primarily from your driveway. At home, keep your keys away from the front door. Typically one person captures the signal from your front door while the other is at the car with a repeater that connects to the person at the door.
Most people keep their keys at the front door.
I wouldn't not spec the feature, it's handy!
11-23-2021 | 10:29 AM
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We have an RX350 and have had the police at our house twice to warn us of theft activity of Lexus and Range Rover vehicles in our neighbourhood (Oakville) and twice to ask to see our video camera recordings because of thefts on our street. We try to never leave the Lexus in the driveway at night because our neighbour three houses down had his stolen, but we did one of the nights that the thefts occurred because I was juggling cars in the garage and ran out of space. However, we had put a club on the steering wheel and had the keys in a faraday box. Sure enough, the cameras caught a car stopping in our driveway and in front of the house twice between 3 and 4 am, but they must have seen the club or weren't able to pick up the signal.
We also have a neighbour who was followed home in her RX350 one night and later that evening thieves attempted to steel it from her driveway. It is very unsettling to think that people are scoping your house and car because it is easy to steal and even if they can't jump the signal, who wants to take the dog out for a pee and run into someone like that on their property? We will never buy a Lexus again and will avoid keyless start whenever possible. That said, we also have an Acura with keyless that is parked in the driveway every night and no one has ever tried to steal it. Regardless, I just don't find the convenience worth the hassle of trying to prevent a theft.
We also have a neighbour who was followed home in her RX350 one night and later that evening thieves attempted to steel it from her driveway. It is very unsettling to think that people are scoping your house and car because it is easy to steal and even if they can't jump the signal, who wants to take the dog out for a pee and run into someone like that on their property? We will never buy a Lexus again and will avoid keyless start whenever possible. That said, we also have an Acura with keyless that is parked in the driveway every night and no one has ever tried to steal it. Regardless, I just don't find the convenience worth the hassle of trying to prevent a theft.
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11-23-2021 | 10:44 AM
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I have these things. What I would like is manufacturers who do a better job. And a push button instead of a miniature plastic *****. And to be able to open the trunks without the fob as in pre 2022 cars. I use a battery disconnect on my older cars. This is not really practical for newer cars
You aren't just vulnerable in your driveway. Youtube demos show cars being stolen as if the thief had the key. Gone in 60 seconds? now gone in 5 seconds
You aren't just vulnerable in your driveway. Youtube demos show cars being stolen as if the thief had the key. Gone in 60 seconds? now gone in 5 seconds
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11-23-2021 | 12:23 PM
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I have these things. What I would like is manufacturers who do a better job. And a push button instead of a miniature plastic *****. And to be able to open the trunks without the fob as in pre 2022 cars. I use a battery disconnect on my older cars. This is not really practical for newer cars
You aren't just vulnerable in your driveway. Youtube demos show cars being stolen as if the thief had the key. Gone in 60 seconds? now gone in 5 seconds
You aren't just vulnerable in your driveway. Youtube demos show cars being stolen as if the thief had the key. Gone in 60 seconds? now gone in 5 seconds
11-23-2021 | 12:24 PM
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Funny, a good friend of mine (Halton Police) told me the two above models are the most stolen brands in Halton by far. High end sports cars not so much.
11-23-2021 | 02:24 PM
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Yep...Halton Police used the DMV records for Lexus and Range Rover SUVs in my area and went to registered owners and warned them of the theft issues. The officer told me that there were 900 of the target vehicles in our neighbourhood alone!
11-23-2021 | 02:29 PM
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The trunk/frunk auto open thing caused all kinds of complaints because it was too sensitive and caused unintended openings according to some online forums. My SA told me removing the feature was their "fix".
The overall security issue was reported and demonstrated on TV (60 Minutes as I recall) years ago.
The overall security issue was reported and demonstrated on TV (60 Minutes as I recall) years ago.
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11-23-2021 | 03:03 PM
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update owner's manual
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11-23-2021 | 10:01 PM
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I love the keyless entry feature and the heated steering wheel too! I'd want both in any future car that I own. Yeah, there's always a chance that your car can get stolen; my friends car got towed from a busy parking lot before, so it didn't matter that the car didn't have keyless entry.
11-24-2021 | 11:34 AM
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I've been doing some research since last week's articles in the Star about how easily current cars can be stolen.
Apparently for Audi, you can buy a firmware update that turns the remote on and off using the built in accelerometer. You tap the remote sharply to turn it off or on. Similarly, an update for Ford causes the remote to go to sleep if it has not been moved for a while, as in when it sits on a table in your house.
Manufacturers likely don't mind because it just means they sell another car.
Apparently for Audi, you can buy a firmware update that turns the remote on and off using the built in accelerometer. You tap the remote sharply to turn it off or on. Similarly, an update for Ford causes the remote to go to sleep if it has not been moved for a while, as in when it sits on a table in your house.
Manufacturers likely don't mind because it just means they sell another car.
Back in the 80's and still today Japanese motorcycles were being stolen at a pronominal rate due to the inferior ignition switches on all of them. I mentioned this to the director of operations for Honda North America at the time and he smiled and said that overall percentage of theft numbers world wide are taken into consideration when deciding overall units to be produced for any one given year. Steal more sell more....