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Old 11-18-2021, 12:26 PM
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I am glad someone agrees w/ me ... "we had" wonderful health care ..."we do not" have one today but our friendly politicians have us believe we do ! I am a math/finance guy / data driven animal and the numbers tell a different story. I would like to believe "we can do better, much better as a country ...". tks for sharing ...
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Originally Posted by ronnie993tt
Don't get me started on Canada's worst in the developed world health care. I hear the anecdotal disaster stories from my medical friends which the data clearly shows. We wealthy do have an option for great health care. It's called USA.
The problem with getting major work done in another jurisdiction is what happens if there are problems. I'm not sure how they look at you if you show up here in emerg to fix work done elsewhere.

Oh, and your chart shows the US is the worst, for twice the money

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Originally Posted by Abe Evrens
This is my paradise ....

On the Aegean Rivera ... this is home !
Nice place.

My wife gets a local mani paper. In it there are death notices for greeks as well as foreigners. Many of the foreigners seem to die at a young age. Only anecdotal. No idea why

Ever seen an ambulance in athens? the lights are flashing, and the sirens are on, but no one gets out of the way.
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You need take the best of what Greece offers and mitigate the worst or avoid. I am not married to "all things" Greece - trust me its a sh-t show some days but you get the good w/ the not so good. As for ambulances and idiots not swerving over ...YES I see that often and wonder whether I should give them an immediate lobotomy ? I have seen ridiculous things here too but we can't nor should we live our lives b/c of other's and why we find them problematic. My go to playbook for greece is simple: I have about 5 like minded friends, I hang with relatives I like, the rest I ignore and exchange pleasantries and go about living my life in a bubble no different from what I am doing here ... and life most days is spectacular !
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Originally Posted by Abe Evrens
You need take the best of what Greece offers and mitigate the worst or avoid. I am not married to "all things" Greece - trust me its a sh-t show some days but you get the good w/ the not so good. As for ambulances and idiots not swerving over ...YES I see that often and wonder whether I should give them an immediate lobotomy ? I have seen ridiculous things here too but we can't nor should we live our lives b/c of other's and why we find them problematic. My go to playbook for greece is simple: I have about 5 like minded friends, I hang with relatives I like, the rest I ignore and exchange pleasantries and go about living my life in a bubble no different from what I am doing here ... and life most days is spectacular !
I love greece..... and also toronto.

I used to have a window office on university ave. I would often see ambulances heading towards the hospitals there with police car and motorcycle escorts. The police would secure the intersection and the ambulances would sail through. It made me feel proud to live in such a society.
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Toronto is a baby by comparison ... Athens is 3500 yrs old - narrower streets, massive density and many issues that come with a city like that and little room to alter an already established infrastructure without it being excessively cost prohibitive. The Athens Metro took years longer to build because they kept finding underground ruins and needed to course correct each time. Its a completely different city.
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Originally Posted by .2PDK
My niece and nephews text each other while at the same table...
probably to talk sh*t about their crazy uncle
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Originally Posted by Bud Fox
probably to talk sh*t about their crazy uncle
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Originally Posted by reacp911
Where have you been that's so much better than TO?

As a person married to a Greek, for example, I've heard so much whining from Greeks here about how Greece is so much better. Unfortunately, every single working age person I know that went back, they all returned to canada. They just could not hack working in greece, or the bureaucracy. I'd love to retire to greece, but let's face it, health care there does not measure up. I've never seen a defibrillator in any public space. In mani where we have a home, its 45 minutes to the nearest hospital, and no helicopter will come to get you.

Where you live is a sum of many things. The sum in Toronto is substantial
Well am in Rosedale and don't get me wrong Toronto has lots too offer just finding after living 30+yrs in the core and on my third house here the core has gotten much busier and much more congested ... Id love a house with a garage or 4 with a nice tree line instead of neighbours .... just a little out of the city where space is not unavailable and at such a premium.
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Toronto is too expensive now. It’s obscene. This is for sale at $5m. A joke.
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Not to worry, Toronto has an international reputation along with its younger sibling Vancouver as an international money laundering centre finding its home in real estate. I am certain that $5M ticket will be VERY easy to absorb. Move on ... nothing to see here BUT yes ... Toronto is ridiculous !
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Originally Posted by Abe Evrens
Not to worry, Toronto has an international reputation along with its younger sibling Vancouver as an international money laundering centre finding its home in real estate. I am certain that $5M ticket will be VERY easy to absorb. Move on ... nothing to see here BUT yes ... Toronto is ridiculous !
I was just in Pittsburg. You can buy a house there real cheap
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The only thing nice with downtown blue chip property is that it appreciates much higher and sells much faster than elsewhere in the GTA... where 22yrs ago I purchased my first house down here for 475k which was a lot then ...sold that house 9yrs later for 1.8m and did nothing to it and then did the same thing twice since ... Taxes aren't cheap due to the value of the properties here although payback is nice when you sell minus the damn land transfer tax
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Originally Posted by moab
Toronto is too expensive now. It’s obscene. This is for sale at $5m. A joke.
That's a decent deal down here because it's new and reno'd ....houses sell here for that price and then and additional 1 or 2M are put into them ... That house will sell for way more than that ...all agents low ball the selling prices of houses here to start bidding wars ... That's not the price they really want for that house .
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Originally Posted by rileyracing1
That's a decent deal down here because it's new and reno'd ....houses sell here for that price and then and additional 1 or 2M are put into them ... That house will sell for way more than that ...all agents low ball the selling prices of houses here to start bidding wars ... That's not the price they really want for that house .
That's what happened 2 doors away from me this week. I live in Mimico. A rental house on a small corner lot which is in dire need of repair was listed for $888,000. There was a lot of interest in the house. There were 36 offers and it went for $1.3 Mil
Then yesterday a woman knocked on my door asking if we wanted to sell. Her son was one of the losing bidders and he asked her to ask homeowners in the area if they're thinking of selling. I get agents all the time asking but this was a first for me.


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