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Under 80km/h it's now only 40km/h over to be stunt driving...and the penalties are even higher now.

Ugh, so places keep lowering speed limits AND the laws get more strict at the same time. It needs to stop.

 

What they call stunt driving is just driving home normally

 

So your upset if an idiot does 40 over in an 80 zone or less and gets a ticket for stunt driving?

What should they get? A warning for being a complete ****ing moron?

 

People who set artificially low speed limits are morons and those that they set it for should not be allowed to drive. It is a privilege to drive not a right, so stay the foff the road.

 

For us Americans, 40 km/h is 24.8mph over the speed limit.
80 km/h, is just about 50mph. so, you'd be doing about 75mph in a 50mph zone. Or 50 in a 25.

 

I used to drive to work in Pickering around 6:30 in the morning.

A cop would regularly blow by me at 200+ no lights or sirens, presumably to end his shift.

 

My problem with this is the lack of distinction between some ******* going 90 km/hr on a residential street and someone doing 130 on an isolated rural highway. The former risks children and everyone else while the latter risks nothing with the possible exception of him/herself. Hopefully the enforcement will continue to target the former plus the easy pickings on the 400 series highways.

 

I doubt it.

Easier to set up speed traps in 60-70-80km/hr zone, than 40-50.

Usually lesser traffic, hence lower yield on residential streets.

 

Those would be the Councillors. They vote on mandates where speed limits are dropped across the board.

 

I would call them anything but morons... they're selling safety but the true motive is profit.

 

Funny how that works eh?

It's a money grab...

 

I'm staying out of this debate... but just for the record, the 40 km/h over-the-limit stunt driving charge is applicable on roads on which the posted speed limit is UNDER 80 km/h. On 80 km/h roads - the vast majority of Ontario's rural highways - the stunt driving charge still kicks in at 50 km/h over the limit, or 130 km/h.

 

1) you didn't stay out of the debate.
2) know how many rural areas drop straight from 80km/h down to 50km/h? Hint: It's a lot.

 

1) I was going to stay out of the "is this a good or bad thing" debate, which I did... although now I am not, because 2) anyone doing 90+ km/h in a 50 km/h zone should indeed have their license taken away.

 

Coming into outskirts of town doing a normal safe 90-100km/h in an 80km/h zone...limit drops to 50km/h because it's now within township limits but it's still rural and a few farm houses several hundred yards from the road, nothing else and you don't get on the brakes immediately coast down to get to 50-60ish by the time you reach homes. Cop sitting right at the sign nails you for stunt driving.

I've gotten dinged by this before, not stunt driving levels, but clocked 30km/h over because I missed the sign that said it dropped to 50km/h when I thought I was still in a 70km/h zone. Is that fair? Did it make the roads safer? I wasn't driving aggressively or faster than the road could handle and there was literally no one around and plenty of sight lines to any hazards. Cop was tucked back behind some trees far off the road just picking off people, he even said as much.

Honestly, if there's no traffic and no hazards and in rural areas, 40km/h over is nothing and not dangerous at all with our artificially low speed limits. If limits were set as actual limits, then I'd have little problem with the 40km/h threshold other than the violations of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms by seizing property and leveling penalties at the road side.