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Old 06-26-2019 | 11:33 PM
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So I have a friend who was able to get an allocation for a GT4 from 2 different dealerships so he's offered me one. We're both trying to figure out how he was able to get 2 allocations so easily (no history with Porsche or the dealers) which got us thinking...is Porsche increasing the production this time around like they did with the 991.2 GT3?

Does anyone have insight into the projected numbers? (i.e. Cam)

We're both debating whether we want to pick them up depending on how strong they will hold their value - any thoughts or opinions on this one?

They said a GT4 would be no problem but a Spyder would be much more difficult to secure...

Thanks!
Old 06-26-2019 | 11:41 PM
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they will make as many as they can. buddy just got back from new 992 course. they said take all the orders you can.
Old 06-27-2019 | 11:06 AM
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Who cares about whether they hold their value. Buy real estate if you care about retaining value in a depreciating asset.
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Old 06-27-2019 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 991GTA
So I have a friend who was able to get an allocation for a GT4 from 2 different dealerships so he's offered me one. We're both trying to figure out how he was able to get 2 allocations so easily (no history with Porsche or the dealers) which got us thinking...is Porsche increasing the production this time around like they did with the 991.2 GT3?

Does anyone have insight into the projected numbers? (i.e. Cam)

We're both debating whether we want to pick them up depending on how strong they will hold their value - any thoughts or opinions on this one?

They said a GT4 would be no problem but a Spyder would be much more difficult to secure...

Thanks!
Good luck with the holding value part, that's not a side of the bet I'd like to be on. Just the fact that allocations are easily available means that either demand isn't strong or supply is high. Either way, that has an impact on price. I'd guess that yes, Porsche will increase production over the previous just based on what they did with GT3s/GT2s/RSs.

Plus, the GT4 is not much of an update from the previous so that may impact demand. Might be a 4 litre, but same torque, same gearing, quite a bit heavier, etc. I'm sure it'd still be a hell of a car though.
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Originally Posted by 991GTA
So I have a friend who was able to get an allocation for a GT4 from 2 different dealerships so he's offered me one. We're both trying to figure out how he was able to get 2 allocations so easily (no history with Porsche or the dealers) which got us thinking...is Porsche increasing the production this time around like they did with the 991.2 GT3?

Does anyone have insight into the projected numbers? (i.e. Cam)

We're both debating whether we want to pick them up depending on how strong they will hold their value - any thoughts or opinions on this one?

They said a GT4 would be no problem but a Spyder would be much more difficult to secure...

Thanks!
Cars are not investments, there are almost more gt3/rs for sale on the Canadian market tha gts and 4s. there a few cases when a car can gain value and it is usually linked to very very very low production numbers, and most of the time that is because people did not buy them and by miracle they wake up 30 years later and the car is deemed rare. Everything today is an ''exclusive edition'' of something, that's called marketing. Plus Porsche is intentionally making unlimited number or RS's because they are fed up with flippers, the 911R situation went completely out of control. Buy the car you want and drive it, that's what it's made for. buy land or real-estate if you wanna have assets that appreciate.
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Old 06-28-2019 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 991GTA
So I have a friend who was able to get an allocation for a GT4 from 2 different dealerships so he's offered me one. We're both trying to figure out how he was able to get 2 allocations so easily (no history with Porsche or the dealers) which got us thinking...is Porsche increasing the production this time around like they did with the 991.2 GT3?

Does anyone have insight into the projected numbers? (i.e. Cam)

Thanks!
No insight...but I know a few people with either Spyder or GT4 allocations...they seem easy to get.

If anything is to be observed from this last round of GT car allocations (GT3, GT3RS) Porsche will certainly build as many as they can. The market for Porsche GT cars has softened and if McLaren sales are anything to go by, it seems people are becoming sick of the GT car games and moving to other brands. I was offered two RS cars today for $5k over list and there's been a flood of GT3s on Autotrader.
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im telling you the facts above. they will build whatever is ordered. i have a 19 rs. didnt even have a deposit in nevermind a list.
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Originally Posted by 991GTA
So I have a friend who was able to get an allocation for a GT4 from 2 different dealerships so he's offered me one. We're both trying to figure out how he was able to get 2 allocations so easily (no history with Porsche or the dealers) which got us thinking...is Porsche increasing the production this time around like they did with the 991.2 GT3?

Does anyone have insight into the projected numbers? (i.e. Cam)

We're both debating whether we want to pick them up depending on how strong they will hold their value - any thoughts or opinions on this one?

They said a GT4 would be no problem but a Spyder would be much more difficult to secure...

Thanks!
Don't believe there are any allocations yet.
Old 06-28-2019 | 06:04 PM
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im telling you the facts above. they will build whatever is ordered. i have a 19 rs. didnt even have a deposit in nevermind a list.
That's not true. It took 2.5 years until I got a GT3 allocation, that too from a dealer I had contacted few months prior to getting the allocation. Not from the dealer I placed a deposit with 3 years ago now. Couldn't even get one from the dealer I bought my GT4 even with returning the GT4 on trade.

Not sure how some people easily got allocations with doing nothing. But at any rate.....I don't think it's as simple as order one and you'll get an allocation.
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lol. no it is true, maybe you annoyed the people at dealer too much?
Old 06-29-2019 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Henley1
lol. no it is true, maybe you annoyed the people at dealer too much?
Sure that's a possibility in the list of potential reasons.

All dealers in Canada had the same response when I shopped around spring 2018. After I realized by deposit dealer (Feb 2016) wasn't coming through. Had some interesting responses from some GMs and Sales Managers. Essentially complaining about lack of cars and how the process sucks.

I never asked how I got mine in terms of why it was available. Got it in August 2018 with Oct build date.

Didn't you trade a 996 GT3?

At any rate I'll hold to my belief that not everybody that wanted one got an allocation. Spoke with a couple guys at the track couple weeks ago and last summer. They did not get cars.

Congrats to you though!
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agree on gt3/rs stuff . but the new spyder n gt4 will be not be the same thing. no didnt trade in anything. sold my 997 gt3 to guy in states. only every bought parts from dt Porsche. thx for congrats. cheeRS.
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Not sure where guys are thinking gt4 allocations are easy to come by but I have called every dealer in British Columbia (Kelowna, Vancouver, Langley, Victoria) and basically was politely told you have no chance of getting one. Contacted a dealer in one the prairie provinces and he told me they got 1 gt4 and 1 Spyder allocation for the spring. I owned a 996c4s that was bought from Langley Porsche which obviously means absolutely nothing and I am not a current Porsche owner (Quadrifoglio owner right now).
I don't think the 718 gt4, although unlimited production, will actually be unlimited availability..IMO
Old 08-31-2019 | 05:29 PM
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With what PORSCHE did recently to GT3, and the GT*RS cars, be rest assured they will make as many as they can. Everyone who wants one will get one, to the point that as soon as you drive your car out the lot, it will depreciate.

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Originally Posted by 991GTA
So I have a friend who was able to get an allocation for a GT4 from 2 different dealerships so he's offered me one. We're both trying to figure out how he was able to get 2 allocations so easily (no history with Porsche or the dealers) which got us thinking...is Porsche increasing the production this time around like they did with the 991.2 GT3?

Does anyone have insight into the projected numbers? (i.e. Cam)

We're both debating whether we want to pick them up depending on how strong they will hold their value - any thoughts or opinions on this one?

They said a GT4 would be no problem but a Spyder would be much more difficult to secure...

Thanks!
Old 08-31-2019 | 08:08 PM
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GT3RS-Fan1,

I don't disagree but numbers don't seem to tell the same story is all and with wait lists at every dealer I've contacted there may simply be more demand than supply and production capabilities might not be able to supply the demand. If 2021 cars go to PDK option with manuals no longer being produced or if production is only 2 years instead of 3 it may help with depreciation. At the end of the day it's an expense and not an investment as we all know.



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