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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 04:11 PM
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I've had my 2002 C4S with Economical (who insures my other cars). My broker got a quote from Hagerty at roughly the same yearly premium (~$900) but there is replacement value. When I asked what value they have set, he said their system spit out $27,400.

For an '02 C4S with sub 60,000km, in great shape, with LN's IMS Solution done, this seems low.

I asked for a $50k valuation. He called Hagerty who said it has to be concours quality and it would cost $1,429/yr. I'll likely have an appraisal done (I can't remember who appraises cars on here, can you reach out to me?) and I've asked my sales rep at Pfaff what he would realistically sell my car for today. I'm guessing I'd have to pay $40k for a similar car then I'd be into the $8-10k to do the RMS, clutch & IMS Solution that I've already done.

I store the car Nov 1 - May 1, in my secure garage, and I drive it approx 2,000km per year - on the weekend here & there and some cruises.

I'd love any feedback from the more experienced Rennlisters.

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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 04:59 PM
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Contact Turbodan for an appraisal.

If you want agreed value make sure you get a 19a policy.

My 87 is appraised at 55k and my premium with Hagerty is about $700ish a year, $1490 seems high. But that might be because it’s not over 20 years old to fall under the classic policies.

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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 05:19 PM
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I'll pay you $25,000 and you're ahead of the game!
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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Adamant1971
But that might be because it’s not over 20 years old to fall under the classic policies.
Pretty sure it's this exactly. 25 years and older to qualify for classic insurance. They're probably taking a standard deductible curve and applying it to msrp over 17 years, under a standard policy.
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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 05:43 PM
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That number from Hagerty does seem kinda high to me as well. I have two cars on my policy with Hagerty with a combined total just shy of $90k in agreed value and I'm only paying $1500 total for the two cars.
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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 08:03 PM
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2003 c2. Insured with Hagerty. About $1000/year. $38k agreed value coverage
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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 09:01 PM
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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 11:19 PM
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Im 450 for 40k value on my 78 !targa
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I think Vintage insurance has better prices with 19a.
I do appraisals, feel free to pm me for the rennlist special
I also can help if anyone is fighting for settlement value.
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Old Apr 13, 2019 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Porsches
I'll pay you $25,000 and you're ahead of the game!
exactly! 🤦🏻

Originally Posted by theiceman
Im 450 for 40k value on my 78 !targa
As others have mentioned, it would appear the age of the vehicle is a big factor.
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Old Apr 13, 2019 | 09:56 AM
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I think the theory is newer cars are being used as daily drivers and insurance rates reflect this. The idea of classic insurance is occasional use, not trying to get cheap insurance for you summer daily driver.
Just my 2c
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Old Apr 13, 2019 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by theiceman
I think the theory is newer cars are being used as daily drivers and insurance rates reflect this. The idea of classic insurance is occasional use, not trying to get cheap insurance for you summer daily driver.
Just my 2c
Makes sense but I told my broker it is garage stored and only occasionally driven. I put less than 2,000km from May - Oct and that includes 2-3 cruises.

I have a C43 I enjoy driving daily.
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Originally Posted by ggrace
Makes sense but I told my broker it is garage stored and only occasionally driven. I put less than 2,000km from May - Oct and that includes 2-3 cruises.

I have a C43 I enjoy driving daily.
I think they should cut you slack if you show milage
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Old Apr 13, 2019 | 08:28 PM
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Give Vintage a call. Maybe they can do better.

https://vintageautoinsurance.ca/
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Old Apr 13, 2019 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Adamant1971
Give Vintage a call. Maybe they can do better.

https://vintageautoinsurance.ca/
Thank you. I will try them.
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