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Old 10-24-2018, 05:27 PM
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Default O/T 50%+ of car loans are 84 months!

https://jalopnik.com/more-than-half-...nan-1829964502

In Canada over half the car loans are 84 months....seems an amazing length of time to me...you end up wth a seven year old car not worth too much.......
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Hope all those people have gap insurance. "Fake it, till ya make it".
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Ya it's nuts. I can't imagine paying for a car much beyond 4 maybe 5 years. But people are addicted to living beyond their means and don't think of the future.
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Too many cars, too many drivers. If you need an 84 month loan to afford a car, take public transit and help ease gridlock. please and thanks.
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Greed greed greed. A lot of this is also driven by shady dealers trying to match the lower payments of leasing and sell up customers to thousands of dollars in useless F&I office products on top of it - products that wouldn't apply to you if you leased.

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Yup and with many, their cars will be worth less than the outstanding amount
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Originally Posted by wc11
Yup and with many, their cars will be worth less than the outstanding amount
Ha! "Upside-Down" x 100--imagine if for some reason you had to sell it after a couple of years

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Originally Posted by Brammy
Who cares as long as they are happy...The snob factor is out of control here. You do realize you will all be dead really soon so do what makes you happy. And no I don’t have a 84 month car loan before you ask but I wouldn’t care if I did . I’m pretty sure wherever you end up when you die doesn’t have credit score or debt to equity tests
yeah, well people that make stupid financial decisions often make other dumb decisions and the rest of us end up having to bail them out.
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Originally Posted by Brammy


when did you bail someone out of their debt? When did the government bail someone out of their personal debt in Canada
By allowing someone to declare bankruptcy, that bad debt is absorbed by the rest of us through higher costs for products and services. For example, say there is a guy who buys a $400K Ferrari or McLaren to hang out with Saturn Drives or participate in some dumb rally's and he ultimately can't afford it and spends God knows what else and he declares bankruptcy. Those losses need to be made up somehow. It's naive to think that people today can do whatever they want without leaving an impact on others.
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Originally Posted by Brammy
Who cares as long as they are happy...The snob factor is out of control here. You do realize you will all be dead really soon so do what makes you happy. And no I don’t have a 84 month car loan before you ask but I wouldn’t care if I did . I’m pretty sure wherever you end up when you die doesn’t have credit score or debt to equity tests
I think it’s just that here in the US, people spend 1/4 of their money on a car. So an 84-mo loan is costing them even more money. A good, sound, financial car purchase is one where folks save their money up and buy with cash - a car they can afford to do that with - not one that they cannot afford. Yep, that means that they shouldn’t buy their first brand new car, but buy used. Heaven forbid they buy a starter car that’s used and only worth $5,000. Then work their way up...

I was young and foolish once too and took a 60-month loan out to buy a sports car when I was in my 20’s. I have since learned to establish better credit and buy only cars I can actually afford.

I’d imagine the 84-month loan is not unlike a 40-yr mortgage. Way too much interest.
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Always blows my mind how many people shop for a payment vs OTD cost .
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Originally Posted by Scotty2H
Always blows my mind how many people shop for a payment vs OTD cost .
It's > 75% of those financing in our business.

>90% don't have any financial literacy. Don't understand compound interest. Don't understand the trade difference is what matters not that the other dealer is giving more or less for trade.

It's what keeps our economy growing. Debt.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
It's > 75% of those financing in our business.

>90% don't have any financial literacy. Don't understand compound interest. Don't understand the trade difference is what matters not that the other dealer is giving more or less for trade.

It's what keeps our economy growing. Debt.
Yep this is 100% correct. First thing we get is generally I need 72-84 month financing on a 3-4 year old car and most real banks will only finance newer cars.. older you need to start dealing with 3rd party lenders where you wholesale them the car and they sell it to the client.. Or better yet 72 month leases. What I also see is 2-3 years into the finance term the car needs some major repair or many repairs, they don't have the money to pay for it.... I have a Mini Cooper at the shop in this predicament

Things get real bad when you start dealing with people who needed 2nd,3rd or 4th chance.
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I love 84 month loans. If the interest rate is 0 percent. I’d maybe even pay 1 or 2 percent.

I’m not worried until they start offering interest only car loans.
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Read this article on Google news yesterday....

https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/debt-opinion-1.4874956

...co worke rand her fiancee just bought a new Denali truck a couple months ago... He just finished school to be an electrician, she works 2 part time jobs (about 0.8FTE at a good union hospital job - probably $40K/yr)... I think the truck was $70K, probably $50-60K financed, they are planning a wedding for next year.

Luckily for them, they moved into a new house last year, her father is a general contractor, and built the house, and the BF (now fiancee) put some sweat equity into the build so they probably got a good deal, but probably are carrying a $100-200K mortgage on a new build in small town Ontario.


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