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Old 11-22-2017, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 911 Rod
Ya I've had my Stihl stuff for years with no problems. I really hate when the rechargeable batteries need to be replaced on my drill never mind if I had to throw out good working lawn equipment because the battery was more than it was worth.
yeah im in that boat now . I have a perfectly working 18V drill and flash light from sears I paid 119 bucks for 5 years ago with two batteries . It is all now Junk as the 18V batteries are dying and its almost 150 bucks for two batteries. Il end up chucking everything out and starting over.
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Originally Posted by theiceman
yeah im in that boat now . I have a perfectly working 18V drill and flash light from sears I paid 119 bucks for 5 years ago with two batteries . It is all now Junk as the 18V batteries are dying and its almost 150 bucks for two batteries. Il end up chucking everything out and starting over.
I'm hoping my two 18V's stay alive for long time cuz replacing a DeWalt drill, angle grinder and saw ain't gonna be cheap. One of our members, Bob, mentioned how using a welder +/- could blast new life into the battery. I haven't tried it but expect that will be my first action when push comes to shove.
Old 11-23-2017, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
I just eyeball the 2 stroke mix. If there isn't enough smoke, I add a little. If there is too much, I laugh and enjoy to fog show until the tank empties a little and then add some gas. I use regular engine oil. This is a leftover way of doing things from the Easternblock era!
Wow I know you are cheap, but wholly chit, can't buy 1/2 L of 2 stroke oil from crappy tire, its like 5 bucks.
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Wow I know you are cheap, but wholly chit, can't buy 1/2 L of 2 stroke oil from crappy tire, its like 5 bucks.
It's not the money. I just never remember to get it when I'm at CT plus, in the Easternblock there was no such thing as 2 stroke oil. Everyone just used NEW engine oil to mix.....even at the full serve (government owned) gas stations when I was filling up my 50cc scooter, the attendant had a jug of NEW engine oil and used the container cap to guesstimate the amount of oil they had to add.

Just think about it for a second, what the hell is so special about 2 the stoke oil for small engines that regular engine oil can't do? Larger engines (snowmobiles, large disparagement motorcycles, etc) have oil injection systems so oil viscosity/specifications are important and I get the proper oil for those but for a leaf blower, I just use engine oil.
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Originally Posted by JimV8
....................One of our members, Bob, mentioned how using a welder +/- could blast new life into the battery.....
What kind of sorcery is this?!?!? Can you share more info on this?
Old 11-23-2017, 04:39 PM
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My understanding is that 2 stroke oil is designed to burn, where conventional oil isn't. Won't harm anything mechanically, but can cause fouling of plugs and poor running.

As for Iceman's post on rejuvenating batteries, I have heard that works too. I would put it in the "proceed at your own risk" category though.

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Originally Posted by Cosmo Kramer
My understanding is that 2 stroke oil is designed to burn, where conventional oil isn't. Won't harm anything mechanically, but can cause fouling of plugs and poor running.

As for Iceman's post on rejuvenating batteries, I have heard that works too. I would put it in the "proceed at your own risk" category though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzIlVLOH9XI
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Old 11-23-2017, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmo Kramer
My understanding is that 2 stroke oil is designed to burn, where conventional oil isn't. Won't harm anything mechanically, but can cause fouling of plugs and poor running.

As for Iceman's post on rejuvenating batteries, I have heard that works too. I would put it in the "proceed at your own risk" category though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzIlVLOH9XI
That is wild. I wonder how long it lasts.
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2 stroke oil uses a different additive package that is designed to not leave excessive residue behind when it burns. 2 stroke oil is either "ashless" or "low ash" which means the detergents and anti-wear compounds will burn off either completely or almost completely. Automotive oils use additives that do not burn such as metallic compounds.

If you run regular automotive oil in your 2-stroke, it will probably lead to an accumulation of deposits in your engine. This is bad for performance and could eventually cause the engine to seize. Also regular engine oil mixed with gas if not used quickly will form a gummy deposit at the bottom of the mix.
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yeah Chinese battery for your dewalt, ! i've bought these before and they are good for about 2 months max ,,

But sucjh is life when you choose cordless tools. You are committing to an end date and manufacturers love it. I still have the very first power tool I bought . a Black and decker drill when I was 15 years old . plugs and sockets haven't changed much over 40 years . I think there is a lesson there somewhere.
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re: lith-ion power tools:

i've had the makita 18v lithium ion tools since 2008 . strictly home use - so 5 project days per year.... still running strong.
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Check the sales at the local hardware stores ... i just picked up two Dewalt 20v lith/ion XR 2AH batteries for $58.00 dolars each from BMR/Matco , regular price was $98.00
Funny thing with Dewalt though , i purchased a 20V circular saw this Summer , but the batteries were optional ... lol

I was told to stay away from the Chinese Ebay batteries !



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