Top 5 reasons to race SPB
09-19-2016, 01:00 PM
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OK that's a little high....we build one of the most expensive (i.e. top prepped) SM's in the country at $45k with full AIM system, just FYI. My SM is available for $30k ready to win Runoffs.
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09-19-2016, 01:04 PM
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Another reason to race SPB: the cars are also legal for T3 in SCCA!
We plan to race SCCA/PCA next year. Along with the Global MX-5 Cup series, we will have a busy schedule for 2017!
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09-19-2016, 02:28 PM
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A top notch, brand new, runner can be bought for 30-35k depending on what safety extras you get. With data and all the bells and whistles/data, then 40k max. And, btw, they don't use the oem supsension in SM..it's illegal. Just how much SM have you ran?
Edit: Todd beat me to it. But his are a tad fancier and a little higher. And we're talking a build from the ground up with any engine builder you want.
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09-19-2016, 02:36 PM
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I'm on them. Doesn't exist. Nothing personal my friend, but this just isn't true. A top notch, brand new, runner can be bought for 30-35k depending on what safety extras you get. With data and all the bells and whistles/data, then 40k max. And, btw, they don't use the oem supsension in SM..it's illegal. Just how much SM have you ran? Edit: Todd beat me to it. But his are a tad fancier and a little higher. And we're talking a build from the ground up with any engine builder you want.
One of their cars used is 30-40k
I've run them once, I asked what it costs to win and then moved to spec boxster
09-19-2016, 02:38 PM
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East Street new build is 40k and below with lots of options. I bought one and know Jim well. They are not anywhere near 75k.
09-19-2016, 02:41 PM
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09-19-2016, 02:46 PM
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When you build a car, don't tell them your other car is a smokin hot GT3RS! 
No worries my friend. Just don't want to give people the wrong impression. I really enjoy the SM crowd..they are extremely helpful and fun to run with..not to mention one of best classes to learn race craft. But, I also love running with PCA..lot of great people and a lot of friends. Nothing like a Porsche. I hope I always have the means to race one in some class. 
No worries my friend. Just don't want to give people the wrong impression. I really enjoy the SM crowd..they are extremely helpful and fun to run with..not to mention one of best classes to learn race craft. But, I also love running with PCA..lot of great people and a lot of friends. Nothing like a Porsche. I hope I always have the means to race one in some class.
09-19-2016, 02:54 PM
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When you build a car, don't tell them your other car is a smokin hot GT3RS! No worries my friend. Just don't want to give people the wrong impression. I really enjoy the SM crowd..they are extremely helpful and fun to run with..not to mention one of best classes to learn race craft. But, I also love running with PCA..lot of great people and a lot of friends. Nothing like a Porsche. I hope I always have the means to race one in some class.
No worries my friend. Just don't want to give people the wrong impression. I really enjoy the SM crowd..they are extremely helpful and fun to run with..not to mention one of best classes to learn race craft. But, I also love running with PCA..lot of great people and a lot of friends. Nothing like a Porsche. I hope I always have the means to race one in some class.
09-19-2016, 03:21 PM
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It's a shame as it seems PCA SPB has come down to the fact that if you don't bend the rules you don't win. I'm generalizing a bit but this is a complain I hear a good bit..
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09-19-2016, 03:43 PM
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Unfortunately it seems PCA SPB has turned into a series of cheaters based on what I heard went on at the last club race where one of the SPBs got DQd for running 100lbs under. The #1 car appeared to have some special sauce added to it as he would easily pull away from the field on the straights running times almost 2 seconds faster than the current SPB track records. When confronted by others he denied it and proceeded to throttle back on the straights during the subsequent sessions. There is a total lack of policing but even if there was guys would find a way to skirt the rules via dual mapping, etc. It's a shame as it seems SPB has come down to the fact that if you don't cheat you don't win.
In the NE at least I don't believe this to be the case. I know quite a few of us in the NE work hard to keep our cars competitive against each other.
09-19-2016, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by powdrhound
It's a shame as it seems PCA SPB has come down to the fact that if you don't cheat you don't win. .
I think the concern is that as the SPB fields grow, some drivers (and shops) may be willing to take shortcuts.
09-19-2016, 06:00 PM
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I don't think this is a fair statement. My experience racing SPB in California is that the best drivers routinely find their way to the podium. They would be there in any of the cars in the field.
I think the concern is that as the SPB fields grow, some drivers (and shops) may be willing to take shortcuts.
I think the concern is that as the SPB fields grow, some drivers (and shops) may be willing to take shortcuts.
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09-19-2016, 07:00 PM
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Of course I didn't mean that to be a blanket statement but just echoing the sentiment of what I've heard from a number of guys that took part in the last club race. There are guys taking shortcuts in every sport. When you see a particular car clearly pull away from other SPBs on a long straight from other "equal" cars, well, it makes you go hmmmm.. There is no driver skill involved there.. My understanding is this was pretty blatant.
09-19-2016, 07:26 PM
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I understand all that. What I was told is that this was not a question of a driver carrying extra speed out of the turn into the straight. Just going by what I heard from several reputable guys that were there. Certainly not pointing fingers and facts always tend to get exaggerated a bit. Again, look at just about any sport and you'll find examples of people bending the rules. Look at Sharapova in Tennis, Lance and probably 90% of the cycling tour, and about half the the Russian Olympic team last month. Happens everywhere unfortunately...
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09-19-2016, 08:39 PM
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I understand all that. This was not a question of a driver carrying extra speed out of the turn into the straight. I know the driver in question and what times he's run on the same track in the past in other SPBs. I think this is why other guys had a huge issue with this because it was the same driver, different car, and all of the sudden a huge visible straight line advantage and times almost 2 sec quicker than in the past.