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Old 06-10-2016, 06:14 PM
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At the risk of starting a riot - is there something materially better than the 250?

Towing 10k lbs / hauling crap around

Will own for 10 years and in that time probably drive 50k miles on it

So long term reliability / comfortable towing crap is what I'm hoping for
Pretty much my criteria. I wanted something that could drag a 10,000 lb
trailer around safely and comfortably for the occupants, was more or less
civilized to drive unladen, and of course it has to be reliable.

I looked at and test drove all three (four) brands then picked a winner
based on my specific needs. IMO, all the diesel super duties are very
capable trucks and more than enough for our needs. Just pick your
favorite brand and go.
Old 06-10-2016, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Jacobs
I'd pay more for a Chevy (in fact I just did) Just sayin
Dan, see you at Watkins Glen June 13 and 14. I owe you a coffee from last year. What do you add to the coffee?

My tow vehicle is a Chevy
Old 06-10-2016, 07:14 PM
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My Dodge was my first diesel. Will never have anything else. I tow a 15K pound bumper pull trailer with extended height and get 12.5 MPG and effortless towing. Several customers went the Dodge route, and have had ZERO issues and love them. 2 customers had Fords and have had numerous issues back and forth to the dealer. Also as mentioned the suspension seems to sag very easy. We rented some Dodges first and were towing a 8k lb trailer and had a 900 golf car in the bed. No suspension sag or anything but comfort even with 4 guys in it.
Old 06-10-2016, 07:22 PM
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What about the new Nissan Titan XD?
Cummings 5.0L and Asin transmission.
Drives more like a 250 than a 150.
Old 06-10-2016, 07:31 PM
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I have a 2012 F250 King Ranch diesel and could not be happier. The first thing you will want to do is have air bags put in the rear. I did my own installation, took an afternoon. I used the Air Lift springs, I got their on board compressor.

The reason the springs are so soft is so that you don't beat yourself to death when you don't have a trailer attached.

The F250 is extremely comfortable to drive, I have driven a lot of diesels and the F250 is by far and away the best of them. I have over 60k on mine. Don't think twice about taking it on a road trip.

All of the 3/4 ton trucks have more power than you will ever use.

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Old 06-11-2016, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Viperbob1
My Dodge was my first diesel. Will never have anything else. I tow a 15K pound bumper pull trailer with extended height and get 12.5 MPG and effortless towing. Several customers went the Dodge route, and have had ZERO issues and love them. 2 customers had Fords and have had numerous issues back and forth to the dealer. Also as mentioned the suspension seems to sag very easy. We rented some Dodges first and were towing a 8k lb trailer and had a 900 golf car in the bed. No suspension sag or anything but comfort even with 4 guys in it.
Bob, I'm lucky to get 11 MPG towing my 24' ATC TAG with my 2008 Dodge diesel (at around 65MPH) Do you think your getting better mileage is due to the newer truck?
Old 06-11-2016, 11:45 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Ford 6.0 and 6.4 L engines known for having problems? Head studs, EGR, etc. 7.3 engine was the one to have. Have the new engines solved those problems?
Old 06-11-2016, 03:09 PM
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I bought my 2013 F250 Lariat diesel new. MSRP was around 61-62k. I bought it for 50-51k, going from memory, and it wasn't a special deal like a year end close out. I'm in Texas, so the prices in your area may be different.
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Put on a GOOD cold air box and a egr and DPF delete. You will get about 20-22 mpg around town and wont even know the trailer is behind you.


Originally Posted by techno99
Bob, I'm lucky to get 11 MPG towing my 24' ATC TAG with my 2008 Dodge diesel (at around 65MPH) Do you think your getting better mileage is due to the newer truck?
Old 06-11-2016, 04:46 PM
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Bought new F450 in May 2012, sticker 70k, paid 60k. Loaded, lots options. Had been sitting on lot since February.
Old 06-11-2016, 05:28 PM
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Cayenne break?
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Originally Posted by Spyerx
Cayenne break?
Naw just wondering if I should be towing this trailer with it
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Cayenne diesel tows very well. Though you'll hear lots of opinions as to why you shouldn't due to its short wheelbase...
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Originally Posted by techno99
Bob, I'm lucky to get 11 MPG towing my 24' ATC TAG with my 2008 Dodge diesel (at around 65MPH) Do you think your getting better mileage is due to the newer truck?
With my 6.7 pulling a 26-ft box tag trailer at 70 mph I am getting around 14 mpg on the highway.

Originally Posted by the_vetman
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Ford 6.0 and 6.4 L engines known for having problems? Head studs, EGR, etc. 7.3 engine was the one to have. Have the new engines solved those problems?
The old Navistars were junk. the new 6.7 solved these problems.

Originally Posted by Viperbob1
Put on a GOOD cold air box and a egr and DPF delete. You will get about 20-22 mpg around town and wont even know the trailer is behind you.
If you do not mind voiding your warranty. Almost any engine work on these things require the cab to be removed. A very expensive proposition to save a couple of mpg.
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Originally Posted by audipwr1
Naw just wondering if I should be towing this trailer with it
At your next club or race event ask one of the guys there that you know if you can pull your trailer with their PU to get a feel for the difference between what you are using and what the PU has to offer.

If you lived down here I would meet you tomorrow so you could see the difference.


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