GPS placement suggestions on 944
#16
The way I see it, there is no right or wrong. And what is optimal depends on one's criteria.
Of course it makes optimal sense to mount an antenna like this on a car's roof. That is already obvious without starting a thread.
Sorry to be unclear. The shop to which I referred is local and they are unquestioned experts. They have quite a bit of experience with these systems at our local tracks. They may be different from your experience with "shops" Peter.
My experience with this equipment thus far suggests that documentation is extremely poor (say a 2 out of 10) and that although they try, folks like the experts here are not good at dealing with basic level installation questions and issues. I appreciate their efforts, but they are dealing with equipment that is just not that refined from a "customer friendly" viewpoint. Given the state of affairs with the gear, I think we owe them a huge debt of gratitude to help us in forums like these.
My main point was that if one is concerned about drilling a roof hole for GPS antenna placement (as I was), you can sometimes leverage localized resources that have been there and done that. i have several to choose from.
Further, it is difficult to assess one's level of handiness in forums like these. I was discouraged from re-terminating my antenna cable, but in actuality is was trivial. So all I needed was a ~3/16" hole in my carbon fiber roof. Not the ~3/4" hole that the connector would require. This was important to me.
Right after I did my install, I attended an AIM workshop put on my Roger Caddell at the shop I referenced. He did (and by all reports always does) a fantastic job. 90% of the cars in that shop had antennas mounted in non-rooftop positions.
I did not expect the basic class would have a lot of information related to installation, and this turned out to be true.
I remember the Serena Industries lap timer and, though vaguely, the first iteration Iphone. And, again vaguely, early PC machines.
This type of equipment has a long way to go in terms of user I/F, installation, configuration and set up.
It is still early days.
I'll update my own thread in the next week or so, as I have now actually used my self-installed and self-configured system on a race track.
I think it is easiest for newer cars with CAN or OBD. If I had one of those cars, I'd have bought a SOLO and a SmartyCam.
Of course it makes optimal sense to mount an antenna like this on a car's roof. That is already obvious without starting a thread.
Sorry to be unclear. The shop to which I referred is local and they are unquestioned experts. They have quite a bit of experience with these systems at our local tracks. They may be different from your experience with "shops" Peter.
My experience with this equipment thus far suggests that documentation is extremely poor (say a 2 out of 10) and that although they try, folks like the experts here are not good at dealing with basic level installation questions and issues. I appreciate their efforts, but they are dealing with equipment that is just not that refined from a "customer friendly" viewpoint. Given the state of affairs with the gear, I think we owe them a huge debt of gratitude to help us in forums like these.
My main point was that if one is concerned about drilling a roof hole for GPS antenna placement (as I was), you can sometimes leverage localized resources that have been there and done that. i have several to choose from.
Further, it is difficult to assess one's level of handiness in forums like these. I was discouraged from re-terminating my antenna cable, but in actuality is was trivial. So all I needed was a ~3/16" hole in my carbon fiber roof. Not the ~3/4" hole that the connector would require. This was important to me.
Right after I did my install, I attended an AIM workshop put on my Roger Caddell at the shop I referenced. He did (and by all reports always does) a fantastic job. 90% of the cars in that shop had antennas mounted in non-rooftop positions.
I did not expect the basic class would have a lot of information related to installation, and this turned out to be true.
I remember the Serena Industries lap timer and, though vaguely, the first iteration Iphone. And, again vaguely, early PC machines.
This type of equipment has a long way to go in terms of user I/F, installation, configuration and set up.
It is still early days.
I'll update my own thread in the next week or so, as I have now actually used my self-installed and self-configured system on a race track.
I think it is easiest for newer cars with CAN or OBD. If I had one of those cars, I'd have bought a SOLO and a SmartyCam.
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Ah, yes. The Hot Lap IR timer!
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#21
http://racegrade.com/downloads/RG_MA...anual%20v2.pdf
To quote:
"GPS signals are easily blocked by electrical noise. Keep the antenna more than 6” from any other antennas such as car-to-pit voice radios, telemetry and other GPS antennas."
https://racelogic.support/01VBOX_Aut...enna_Placement
To quote:
"For the best results, use the antenna in the centre of a metal roof away from any roof bars or radio antennas."
I could hunt for more, but I think you get the idea.
To quote:
"GPS signals are easily blocked by electrical noise. Keep the antenna more than 6” from any other antennas such as car-to-pit voice radios, telemetry and other GPS antennas."
https://racelogic.support/01VBOX_Aut...enna_Placement
To quote:
"For the best results, use the antenna in the centre of a metal roof away from any roof bars or radio antennas."
I could hunt for more, but I think you get the idea.