What is the "Appropriate" level of Safety Gear for a "Drive to the Track" car?
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Under NO circumstances should the FIA rule be used for Club and DE events.
The NUMBER ONE cause for incidents at track events is confusion interpreting "standard" protocol. And I have data to support that...
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Not to derail on flags, but Hank Watts, Golden Gate Chief Instructor at one time and author of Secrets of Solo Racing, used to teach that essentially every flag mean, "Check your mirrors" and then do something.
Blue = Check your mirrors, someone is faster than you (actually he used to say if you are in a Club Race, "There's a race going on and you aren't in it")
Black = Check your mirrors, be aware, and get to the pits
Red = Check your mirrors, stop controlled and safe in sight of a flag station.
You get the point.
Blue = Check your mirrors, someone is faster than you (actually he used to say if you are in a Club Race, "There's a race going on and you aren't in it")
Black = Check your mirrors, be aware, and get to the pits
Red = Check your mirrors, stop controlled and safe in sight of a flag station.
You get the point.
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An explanation of a particularly arcane procedure adopted only by FIA (hence Tudor and some CASC events) does not reinforce that that red flag procedure is NOT generally well known or taught in North America.
Under NO circumstances should the FIA rule be used for Club and DE events.
The NUMBER ONE cause for incidents at track events is confusion interpreting "standard" protocol. And I have data to support that...
Under NO circumstances should the FIA rule be used for Club and DE events.
The NUMBER ONE cause for incidents at track events is confusion interpreting "standard" protocol. And I have data to support that...
I agree that a lot of people do not have a full, fast acting understanding of the flags.
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Not to derail on flags, but Hank Watts, Golden Gate Chief Instructor at one time and author of Secrets of Solo Racing, used to teach that essentially every flag mean, "Check your mirrors" and then do something.
Blue = Check your mirrors, someone is faster than you (actually he used to say if you are in a Club Race, "There's a race going on and you aren't in it")
Black = Check your mirrors, be aware, and get to the pits
Red = Check your mirrors, stop controlled and safe in sight of a flag station.
You get the point.
Blue = Check your mirrors, someone is faster than you (actually he used to say if you are in a Club Race, "There's a race going on and you aren't in it")
Black = Check your mirrors, be aware, and get to the pits
Red = Check your mirrors, stop controlled and safe in sight of a flag station.
You get the point.
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Sorry to sound harsh. Appreciate that you posted that explanation.
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I'm a big supporter of Red flag drills for DE. It's good to review with green students when you get in their cars. I often say- there may be a red flag drill and review procedure.
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Good idea!
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NNJR use to do it. We did it at PDA - and early years at NASA NE when I was Chief. I too have not seen it recently but I have been out of the loop. I'll have it incorporated at HOD next event. I expect NASA NE to do it at next event also.
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Man, we used to do it at most of the TrackTime events in the 1980's, every one of the 80+ events at Car Guys, Inc. in the Nineties and most BMWCCA Tarheel Chapter and Capitol Chapter events.
We did BFA (black flag all) to end at least one or more sessions over the weekend and Red flag drills at least once for each group. It helped weed out a lot of sketchy people and several were sent home when they blew it more than once.
I have seen some VERY inattentive drivers at PCA Club Racing and some historic racing events...
I first saw those drills in SCCA Comp school. Blew a checker once and almost didn't pass the school!
We did BFA (black flag all) to end at least one or more sessions over the weekend and Red flag drills at least once for each group. It helped weed out a lot of sketchy people and several were sent home when they blew it more than once.
I have seen some VERY inattentive drivers at PCA Club Racing and some historic racing events...
I first saw those drills in SCCA Comp school. Blew a checker once and almost didn't pass the school!
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Instructor development was top notch, workers were top-notch, classroom
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C. Dan Unkefer and Dan Dazzo were (and are) some of the best guys I've ever worked with. It was a good time. Don't forget, PCA Club Racing started in 1992!
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A red flag wasn't thrown in the first 5 years I did the sport. I also had one at COTA where the car in front of me just pounded the brakes when the red was thrown on the cool down lap. I had to dive off into the red paint to avoid him.
Methinks we could use a bit of practice
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I am a big fan of regular red flag drills in all run groups.
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