What's your HANS routine?
07-14-2015, 04:52 PM
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What's your HANS routine?
Suited up with Hans and helmet going in. Helmet and Hans off still attached before exiting the car.
I can get out with everything on (a requirement for an enduro) but easier with no helmet and Hans.
I can get out with everything on (a requirement for an enduro) but easier with no helmet and Hans.
07-14-2015, 05:39 PM
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07-14-2015, 05:51 PM
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Helmet off getting in and out of car.
HANS generally off both ways but not always.
I have a routine when putting on and attaching so I don't forget.
I don't race but can get out of the car with helmet and HANS attached.
HANS generally off both ways but not always.
I have a routine when putting on and attaching so I don't forget.
I don't race but can get out of the car with helmet and HANS attached.
07-14-2015, 06:10 PM
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Fully Hans+Helmeted getting in and out. I'm a thin man with pretty good strength and flexibility so it's really no problem at all. The only thing I'm not wearing is my gloves because it's easier to fiddle with belts and window nets.
07-14-2015, 06:31 PM
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Once I am in the car, I set my HANS on my shoulders, buckle my harness leaving the shoulder belts loose, but resting over the HANS. I put on my helmet, secure my chin strap, then connect the HANS to my helmet. Tighten the belts, make sure the belts are properly positioned over the HANS, put on my gloves, and then go time. I found following the same pre-programmed routine reduces the chances of me forgetting something.
When the need arises, like doing a driver change in an enduro, I can get in with helmet and HANS already on, (and exit when needed), but I when time is not a concern, I like putting it on once I am seated in the car.
When the need arises, like doing a driver change in an enduro, I can get in with helmet and HANS already on, (and exit when needed), but I when time is not a concern, I like putting it on once I am seated in the car.
07-14-2015, 07:39 PM
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I know most people leave the helmet and HANS device together, and mostly put it on before getting in. I don't love fishing for and fussing with the belts while the helmet is strapped on. I leave them both in the passenger seat.
1) start the car, and crank the AC
- let the car settle while I get ready.
2) get the lap belts sorted, then don the HANS
3) tie in the shoulder belts over the HANS and tie everything down.
4) Check guages (temp fuel, etc) set sport mode, turn on camera/lap timer etc.
5) put on the helmet. I wear glasses so my rule is that the chin and HANS straps are on before my glasses go back in. Then gloves on.
6) give the helmet a quick nod-test before driving off.
the other way much less rigor. Sometimes the helm comes of quick, other times I'm out first. if things are particularly tight in the paddock I'll unclip the helmet quickly before backing the car up.
Anyway, that's what I have been doing. Maybe I'll give the "normal" way a try for a bit.
1) start the car, and crank the AC
- let the car settle while I get ready.2) get the lap belts sorted, then don the HANS
3) tie in the shoulder belts over the HANS and tie everything down.
4) Check guages (temp fuel, etc) set sport mode, turn on camera/lap timer etc.
5) put on the helmet. I wear glasses so my rule is that the chin and HANS straps are on before my glasses go back in. Then gloves on.
6) give the helmet a quick nod-test before driving off.
the other way much less rigor. Sometimes the helm comes of quick, other times I'm out first. if things are particularly tight in the paddock I'll unclip the helmet quickly before backing the car up.
Anyway, that's what I have been doing. Maybe I'll give the "normal" way a try for a bit.
07-14-2015, 08:30 PM
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Hans on in the morning. Hans off at the end of the day.
07-14-2015, 09:26 PM
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I wear glasses and it's a hell of a lot easier to put on the helmet+HANS while outside the car, then put on the glasses and climb in. Not much room, especially headroom, to do it all while in the car.
No, it's much easier to get out of the car than to get in.
Except when upside-down. I can get out with the steering wheel on and the seat forward with the car right side up. I found out it's damn near impossible with the wheel on and the seat forward when inverted. Next time (hopefully never again), I'll remember to move the seat back and take the wheel off before trying to exit an inverted car. My normal exit procedure takes 7 seconds. Upside-down took close to 30.
Don't these contradict?
Except when upside-down. I can get out with the steering wheel on and the seat forward with the car right side up. I found out it's damn near impossible with the wheel on and the seat forward when inverted. Next time (hopefully never again), I'll remember to move the seat back and take the wheel off before trying to exit an inverted car. My normal exit procedure takes 7 seconds. Upside-down took close to 30.
07-14-2015, 09:39 PM
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07-14-2015, 09:53 PM
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I'm with Carrera51. Seems like limited visibilty with helmet on. Checklist in car says:
Camera On
Window Net
Hans On
Belts
Plug in Cool Suit (Check Flow)
Helmet
Hans Straps
Gloves
Pretty much reverse order when getting out.
And yes there is a checklist on the steering wheel.
Camera On
Window Net
Hans On
Belts
Plug in Cool Suit (Check Flow)
Helmet
Hans Straps
Gloves
Pretty much reverse order when getting out.
And yes there is a checklist on the steering wheel.
07-14-2015, 10:48 PM
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Once I am in the car, I set my HANS on my shoulders, buckle my harness leaving the shoulder belts loose, but resting over the HANS. I put on my helmet, secure my chin strap, then connect the HANS to my helmet. Tighten the belts, make sure the belts are properly positioned over the HANS, put on my gloves, and then go time. I found following the same pre-programmed routine reduces the chances of me forgetting something.
When the need arises, like doing a driver change in an enduro, I can get in with helmet and HANS already on, (and exit when needed), but I when time is not a concern, I like putting it on once I am seated in the car.
When the need arises, like doing a driver change in an enduro, I can get in with helmet and HANS already on, (and exit when needed), but I when time is not a concern, I like putting it on once I am seated in the car.
07-15-2015, 01:57 PM
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I am tall, with long legs and broad at the shoulders so climbing in a caged car is already a chore. A SPB is a gymnastics exercise for me. Cant do it with the helmet on and cant do the separate the HANS and helmet thing. So I gear up in the car with the rig together. It has never been an issue for me space wise and I find that before the race group goes out i am more comfortable and gear up when they call 5 minutes. I normally am ready to go at 2 to go including getting the helmet blower connected.
Interestingly, I can get out with the rig on, which of course is necessary in an emergency. I normally do get out with it on as a way of continuously practicing the exit if you needed to as its more second nature. Normally I only take the rig off in the car if I am sent to the scales.
Interestingly, I can get out with the rig on, which of course is necessary in an emergency. I normally do get out with it on as a way of continuously practicing the exit if you needed to as its more second nature. Normally I only take the rig off in the car if I am sent to the scales.
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07-15-2015, 02:20 PM
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Firstly, helmet always tethered to the HANS. When I was DE'ing my street cars, my SOP was to pull the helmet & HANS on after getting into the car. Now that I'm racing a Cup, I've found it easier to put it on before getting in the car. My helmet is a Stilo with an air nozzle on top, which makes it a pain no matter which method you choose, since the nozzle either hits the roll bar on the way in, or it hits the roof if you're pulling it on once in the car.
07-15-2015, 02:32 PM
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I put the helmet and Hans in the car at the beginning of the day and leave them there. Entering and exiting a small car with a cage, can be accomplished with them on. However, it seems I risk banging/chipping the helmet each time.
So, generally they are on the floor of the passenger side, separated. This is also why I like my quick disconnects. I get in the car, put the Hans on, loosely fasten the belts, put the helmet on, then tighten everything down once established in my position on grid. I feel this gives me the best ability to swivel my head and see/avoid things in the paddock. Lastly, as soon as I clear the track/pit in, I release the Hans so I can fully turn my head while driving back to my parking area.
So, generally they are on the floor of the passenger side, separated. This is also why I like my quick disconnects. I get in the car, put the Hans on, loosely fasten the belts, put the helmet on, then tighten everything down once established in my position on grid. I feel this gives me the best ability to swivel my head and see/avoid things in the paddock. Lastly, as soon as I clear the track/pit in, I release the Hans so I can fully turn my head while driving back to my parking area.