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Old 05-06-2015, 11:32 PM
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Anyone here familiar with SCCA class structure? Thinking of doing an SCCA time trial. Spent the last hour looking through SCCA GCR, I don't see anything that resembles PCA stock class...

Super Touring is < 3.2 liter
Improved Touring and T2-T4 does not allow remote reservoir shocks, and I don't see a 993 listed anyway.

So does that put me in GT? If GT it looks like Ill just get run over...
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What modifications have you done? Want to race national or regional? Also, might what to check out what you need to do to get your SCCA Comp Licenses if you do not already have one. Not sure of the rules for cross over from PCA if you want to race at national events but for regional, Porsche Club of America Full Competition is good enough. Some regions have ITE (Everything else) as long as it passes tech. Might want to check your local region.
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You could probably get the 993 into T2 but the remote reservoir shocks still kills you (those are in stock class? I'm sure that's been debated to death but sure kills you if you race outside of PCA). They don't class every car out there, you have to submit at request for classification to the CRB and they'll take care of that.

As your car sits it's either GT2 (I think) and you'll get killed by the good guys but regional racing you s should be fine. Or ITE which is just for non-Majors events and it's a catchall for any street based car so you could get even more crushed. Any car in PCA can be eligible for ITE.
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If I remember correctly, ITE doesn't allow moved suspension points, so if you have that, you are in GT in SCCA. SCCA GT2 used to move to PCA GT2 very well, but I don't know if that is still the case.
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Ite allows anything in most areas. Tube frame cars are legal in most regions for its so suspension issues don't exist.
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Ive been advised that it should fit into Street Prepared BSP, but I don't see that class in the GCR at all... Very confused...

The car is a 95 993 prepared to the top of PCA stock class, which isn't much.
The only performance modifications are:
Remote Reservoir Shocks
Stiffer springs
Camber plates
Monoballs in all suspension bushings
Stock headers, but removed all cats and mufflers, center outlet
Lightened single mass flywheel
"Chipped" ECU
"R" Comp tires (rims are .5 wider than stock)
Brake ducts (stock brakes otherwise)

Then a bunch durability and safety modifications (SS brake lines, studs, etc).

Just looking to go to a local TT and have some fun. I want to put the car in the correct class, but don't want to get run over by the space shuttle either.

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SCCA TT uses Solo or Autocross classes to handicap your car against others. Don't know your car but if you list what it is and has done to it I'm happy to help. My 997.2 Cup falls into the XP class when I do a time trial. Also no comp license is required for time trials. Stu
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Just go into XP class. I think you are beyond BSP.

You'll have fun. What track?

Stu
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No STO in your area? I'll admit I don't know that area of the rules well, but...
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SCCA T2 does allow remote reservoir shocks I'm in that class and have seen some 911 variant in the class. Around page 866 in the GCR are the T2 spec lines. Fall-line motorsports is running several 911's in T2 so they might be a good contact for info. You can read the spec lines for eligible cars and how they must be equipped to be legal. I don't race NASA but NASA ST classes are power to weight with open mods on a point system. Just about anything with wheels will fit in there.
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Originally Posted by fatbillybob
SCCA T2 does allow remote reservoir shocks I'm in that class and have seen some 911 variant in the class. Around page 866 in the GCR are the T2 spec lines. Fall-line motorsports is running several 911's in T2 so they might be a good contact for info. You can read the spec lines for eligible cars and how they must be equipped to be legal. I don't race NASA but NASA ST classes are power to weight with open mods on a point system. Just about anything with wheels will fit in there.
I'm not sure how to read the spec...
Originally Posted by GCR
"The make of shock absorber may be changed. Their
number, perch location(s), system of attachment, and
attachment points shall not be altered. Their type (tube
vs. lever, etc.) shall not be altered. The interchange of gas
and hydraulic shock absorbers is permitted.
T4 only: (unless specified on spec line) Any non-adjustable
shock absorber is allowed. The shock must be installed in
the original mounting locations. Remote shocks are not
permitted. Threaded shock bodies or adjusters may be
used."
Since I don't see any mention of allowing remote/adjustable I assumed it was not allowed.

I'm not trying to rebuild the car to SCCA spec. This is just a single event that looks like fun... Trying to find the best class to be in.

I got in touch with the event chair.. They are going to evaluate the car and issue 2 classes for it..
The Timetrial will use Solo classes so BSP should be good here....
For regular Road Race class I hope T2 is viable, I wont be very competitive in T2, but wont get run over, which is all I can ask for...

The class record for BSP is pretty slow, so should be able to break it... That would be fun.

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Originally Posted by Matt Romanowski
If I remember correctly, ITE doesn't allow moved suspension points, so if you have that, you are in GT in SCCA. SCCA GT2 used to move to PCA GT2 very well, but I don't know if that is still the case.
you can move anything, anywhere you want in ITE. its basically anything goes on DOTs. (as long as its a production chassis). Its a regional class, so some regions might have small differences.
sounds like that might be a good place for your car. otherwise, as was said, you might be it into GT2, but have fun and luck running with the newish Cup cars.



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