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Brumos GTD car in the Aerodyne tunnel. $495/hour with two hour minimum.
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There is a lot to be learned by simply mapping ride height versus downforce and drag, particularly in response to the movement of each end of the car. Knowing what sensitivities your particular vehicle has makes it much easier to go after changes of the most benefit.
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Sorry we didnt shoot video. Have pictures, have results, only a few Porsche guys showed up to watch and see. Do have video from past testing will post after I get back from Sebring, testing of car with mods done. We managed to find the sweet spots for balanced downforce/drag , splitter mods, rear wing placements. . Really happy as I worked on the car for week of prepp for the tests. We will be at the PRI show with the Cayman.
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Sorry we didnt shoot video. Have pictures, have results, only a few Porsche guys showed up to watch and see. Do have video from past testing will post after I get back from Sebring, testing of car with mods done. We managed to find the sweet spots for balanced downforce/drag , splitter mods, rear wing placements. . Really happy as I worked on the car for week of prepp for the tests. We will be at the PRI show with the Cayman.
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were able to measure the downforce at various degrees of angle on rear wing?
were dive planes effective
a rear defuser used? helpful
Sorry Ernie for all the questions...
what weight are you down to in the Cayman/
were dive planes effective
a rear defuser used? helpful
Sorry Ernie for all the questions...
what weight are you down to in the Cayman/
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Sorry we didnt shoot video. Have pictures, have results, only a few Porsche guys showed up to watch and see. Do have video from past testing will post after I get back from Sebring, testing of car with mods done. We managed to find the sweet spots for balanced downforce/drag , splitter mods, rear wing placements. . Really happy as I worked on the car for week of prepp for the tests. We will be at the PRI show with the Cayman.
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True, but I think it would make more use of the time if you have the ability to make other changes if possible. eg End plates on wings and splitters could be easy enough.
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Hi, We tested 3 cars, so we were busy. Now getting ready to go to Sebring and actually run two of the cars. Did we have time to test everything you guys mentioned no. Test results, Brion may post them, I will be travelling to Sebring wednesday. I am , as of sunday tweaking the cars from what we learned. All are welcome to book time in tunnel, just contact me.
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This weekend we tested 3 different cars with a total of 12 different configurations, including wickers at speeds of 100kph, 140kph, 180kph and 220kph for each configuration in the ACE wind tunnel at the University of Ontario Institute of Technology. All of the aero forces were measured in pounds, in real time, at the tire contact patches, and in three axis (vertical, fore-aft, left-right). The % change in chassis pitch and roll was tracked as well.
After spending most of the day in the UOIT wind tunnel, here’s what we concluded. First, anything affects everything else. Second, getting Front down force is a lot more difficult than adding Rear down force. Specifically we found that by increasing the AOA of a GT3 Cup wing by a few positions, the Rear down force was increased, Drag was increased and Front down force was slightly reduced. No surprises there. But by running the wing at its original, more neutral AOA and simply adding a wicker, we had the same measured down force with far less of an increase in drag. We were running an extended front splitter and as the Rear down force was increased, we saw a reduction in the Front down force. We changed the chassis angle of attack (adding rake) and brought the Front and Rear down force values back into a better balance with a negligible increase in drag. We found similar results using a variety of wicker heights in a second car and a third car with a fixed wing We also tested the cooling efficiency of a car with a reduced front air intake. The air intake had been dramatically reduced to increase measured front down force. The car was “driven” in the tunnel at 6000 rpm loaded for over 5 minutes at a wind speed of 160kph to see if it would overheat or not. It didn’t.
The Motorsports Research facility at UOIT will be available in 2015 at competitive rates. Contact me (brion@bbxracing.com) or Ernie (ernie@mantissport.ca) if you are interested.
After spending most of the day in the UOIT wind tunnel, here’s what we concluded. First, anything affects everything else. Second, getting Front down force is a lot more difficult than adding Rear down force. Specifically we found that by increasing the AOA of a GT3 Cup wing by a few positions, the Rear down force was increased, Drag was increased and Front down force was slightly reduced. No surprises there. But by running the wing at its original, more neutral AOA and simply adding a wicker, we had the same measured down force with far less of an increase in drag. We were running an extended front splitter and as the Rear down force was increased, we saw a reduction in the Front down force. We changed the chassis angle of attack (adding rake) and brought the Front and Rear down force values back into a better balance with a negligible increase in drag. We found similar results using a variety of wicker heights in a second car and a third car with a fixed wing We also tested the cooling efficiency of a car with a reduced front air intake. The air intake had been dramatically reduced to increase measured front down force. The car was “driven” in the tunnel at 6000 rpm loaded for over 5 minutes at a wind speed of 160kph to see if it would overheat or not. It didn’t.
The Motorsports Research facility at UOIT will be available in 2015 at competitive rates. Contact me (brion@bbxracing.com) or Ernie (ernie@mantissport.ca) if you are interested.