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Old 02-07-2014, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Astroman
And people using 964 cams in 911s.
Agree 100%, and hear there are people with Euro pistons in 3.2's also!! I don't get it, who wins when you cheat? Also hear the 964 cams work great in a 3.2... Can I put a 964 cam in a 3.2?

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Oh wait, they can find cams

I'm guessing they won't recognize my 962 cams
Old 02-07-2014, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by flatsics
While I'm all for tighter scrutineering, I'm a bit skeptical about the data being interpreted and used properly.

There are easily recognizable things being missed at race weekends all the time.


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Speaking of which...it appears from the video that the driver was not wearing any sort of head & neck restraint. Perhaps the video is misleading or I just can't see it? However, if he is not, how the heck did he get released from grid???
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I just received my HANS carbon fiber jock strap, I heard PCA is going to require them in 2015... it is actually part of the new slider system, you jump into it through the sunroof.
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Originally Posted by Gary R.
I just received my HANS carbon fiber jock strap, I heard PCA is going to require them in 2015... it is actually part of the new slider system, you jump into it through the sunroof.
LOL!

I am serious, though. The 2014 rules say "A head and neck restraint certified as meeting the standards of either SFI 38.1 or FIA 8858 is required."

How the heck was this guy allowed to get on track without one?

Can you imagine the legal situation if he had crashed, and, not having one, had suffered basal skull fracture?

If this is the same guy I think he is, I saw him, in this same car, at WinterFest at Sebring in January...in the same helmet...also without head & neck restraint.
Old 02-07-2014, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary R.
I just received my HANS carbon fiber jock strap, I heard PCA is going to require them in 2015... it is actually part of the new slider system, you jump into it through the sunroof.
I heard the scruts might be scoping to verify the correct displacement of said HANS CFJ. For safety.....of course.

DQ's will be issued for non factory spec equipment and cheaters will have their CFJ's run up the flagpole to make an example of them.

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Originally Posted by deutschkar
I heard the scruts might be scoping to verifying the correct displacement of said HANS CFJ. For safety.....of course.

DQ's will be issued for non factory spec equipment and cheaters will have their CFJ's run up the flagpole to make an example of them.
I had to have mine custom made... I heard they used a bowling ball for the mold.
Old 02-08-2014, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary R.
I had to have mine custom made... I heard they used a bowling ball for the mold.
im guessing you mean the finger holes only
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
LOL!

I am serious, though. The 2014 rules say "A head and neck restraint certified as meeting the standards of either SFI 38.1 or FIA 8858 is required."

How the heck was this guy allowed to get on track without one?

Can you imagine the legal situation if he had crashed, and, not having one, had suffered basal skull fracture?

If this is the same guy I think he is, I saw him, in this same car, at WinterFest at Sebring in January...in the same helmet...also without head & neck restraint.
That is a bit surprising. The volunteers and scrutes were diligent on the grid. I had my hood pins, window net, and arm restraints checked every time and Chris reminded me to connect my Hans at one point so they were looking.
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I know it is a difficult (volunteer) job, when there are 200+ cars racing. But wow.

Again, based on what I saw of this cat at WinterFest, he simply does not wear a H&N restraint at all. I am amazed this was not observed at all in any of the many sessions he took to the track during the 48 Hours event.

Old 02-08-2014, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Speaking of which...it appears from the video that the driver was not wearing any sort of head & neck restraint. Perhaps the video is misleading or I just can't see it? However, if he is not, how the heck did he get released from grid???
You can't see it because the right-side net is in the way. Oh wait, he doesn't have one of those either, but that's ok because PCA doesn't require it.
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
I know it is a difficult (volunteer) job, when there are 200+ cars racing. But wow.

Again, based on what I saw of this cat at WinterFest, he simply does not wear a H&N restraint at all. I am amazed this was not observed at all in any of the many sessions he took to the track during the 48 Hours event.

I'm pretty sure he only did the enduro
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Here is a scary scenario: You buy a top of the line Spec Box from another racer and discover at one of your races that the engine isn't legal. Is there a mechanism in place that allows you to add weight or something and still run? If not, there should be. You now have a large investment into something you can't use for its intended purpose. I'm far from an engine guy and wouldn't know a cheater one if I saw it.

In my eyes it is my job to set up the car, drive the snot out of it and then complain that it is down on power. Beyond that, it is more than I want to learn and difficult at best.
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Originally Posted by ZBB0730
Here is a scary scenario: You buy a top of the line Spec Box from another racer and discover at one of your races that the engine isn't legal.

In my eyes it is my job to set up the car, drive the snot out of it and then complain that it is down on power. Beyond that, it is more than I want to learn and difficult at best.
Been happening since the beginning of time... Caveat emptor...

Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Der ABT
im guessing you mean the finger holes only
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