Yet another reminder: Take it to the track
#16
#18
if you want to see people hit by a car.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c99_1372613418
-yet, another reminder to have a barrier between you and the track...
I've seen cars (corner worker's) parked well off the line get hit... because they thought it was a safe place to park.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c99_1372613418
-yet, another reminder to have a barrier between you and the track...
I've seen cars (corner worker's) parked well off the line get hit... because they thought it was a safe place to park.
#20
What a complete idiot. The driver never got control of that car even for a second.
As for the audience, for some reason people love playing Darwin's Poker -- keeping barely few feet of air between themselves and tons of metal barreling down at the edge of adhesion. Just like in those Pikes Peak videos... "If government hasn't banned this, it must be safe for me then!" It's how nature fixes itself, I guess.
As for the audience, for some reason people love playing Darwin's Poker -- keeping barely few feet of air between themselves and tons of metal barreling down at the edge of adhesion. Just like in those Pikes Peak videos... "If government hasn't banned this, it must be safe for me then!" It's how nature fixes itself, I guess.
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#24
there is a barrier there, a weenie little parade fence like they have at the tour de france to keep weenie 140 pound cyclists from clobbering you.
that driver shoudl be taken to jail.
that driver shoudl be taken to jail.
if you want to see people hit by a car.
LiveLeak.com - Koenigsegg mows down crowd
-yet, another reminder to have a barrier between you and the track...
I've seen cars (corner worker's) parked well off the line get hit... because they thought it was a safe place to park.
LiveLeak.com - Koenigsegg mows down crowd
-yet, another reminder to have a barrier between you and the track...
I've seen cars (corner worker's) parked well off the line get hit... because they thought it was a safe place to park.
#25
With all due respect VR, I call BS on this.
Would you really want someone with that guy's mentality on the track with you?
This is caused by driving over your head, not poor venue choice. And I see a ton of videos from DE and club races that show people driving past their abilities. Then I see posts about people who die at driving events, even though they have all or most of the safety gear they should have, and often aren't even going that fast when they crash. I fail to see how it's worth it.
Until driving on track is about being in control of yourself, your car, and to the best of your ability the situation around you, and not about goosing yourself with adrenaline, or telling stories about how you "almost lost it" while driving too fast to learn much from it.
The track looks like fun, I'll get there someday. But it sure as hell won't be to be safe, because between going that fast, and being surrounded by people who get off on the risk factor specifically, or just don't know how to stay this side of their own competence, I don't see how it's possible with the current culture, much less the reality of physics.
Would you really want someone with that guy's mentality on the track with you?
This is caused by driving over your head, not poor venue choice. And I see a ton of videos from DE and club races that show people driving past their abilities. Then I see posts about people who die at driving events, even though they have all or most of the safety gear they should have, and often aren't even going that fast when they crash. I fail to see how it's worth it.
Until driving on track is about being in control of yourself, your car, and to the best of your ability the situation around you, and not about goosing yourself with adrenaline, or telling stories about how you "almost lost it" while driving too fast to learn much from it.
The track looks like fun, I'll get there someday. But it sure as hell won't be to be safe, because between going that fast, and being surrounded by people who get off on the risk factor specifically, or just don't know how to stay this side of their own competence, I don't see how it's possible with the current culture, much less the reality of physics.
#27
With all due respect VR, I call BS on this.
Would you really want someone with that guy's mentality on the track with you?
This is caused by driving over your head, not poor venue choice. And I see a ton of videos from DE and club races that show people driving past their abilities. Then I see posts about people who die at driving events, even though they have all or most of the safety gear they should have, and often aren't even going that fast when they crash. I fail to see how it's worth it.
Until driving on track is about being in control of yourself, your car, and to the best of your ability the situation around you, and not about goosing yourself with adrenaline, or telling stories about how you "almost lost it" while driving too fast to learn much from it.
The track looks like fun, I'll get there someday. But it sure as hell won't be to be safe, because between going that fast, and being surrounded by people who get off on the risk factor specifically, or just don't know how to stay this side of their own competence, I don't see how it's possible with the current culture, much less the reality of physics.
Would you really want someone with that guy's mentality on the track with you?
This is caused by driving over your head, not poor venue choice. And I see a ton of videos from DE and club races that show people driving past their abilities. Then I see posts about people who die at driving events, even though they have all or most of the safety gear they should have, and often aren't even going that fast when they crash. I fail to see how it's worth it.
Until driving on track is about being in control of yourself, your car, and to the best of your ability the situation around you, and not about goosing yourself with adrenaline, or telling stories about how you "almost lost it" while driving too fast to learn much from it.
The track looks like fun, I'll get there someday. But it sure as hell won't be to be safe, because between going that fast, and being surrounded by people who get off on the risk factor specifically, or just don't know how to stay this side of their own competence, I don't see how it's possible with the current culture, much less the reality of physics.
I've never seen anything nearly that stupid at the track since I started in 2009. Sure, there is an adrenaline rush and it is fun. I mean,who would do it if it wasn't fun? The guys I track with (mainly PCA) are deadly serious about safety and it is ingrained from the start in their students and participants.
It would be a pretty sure bet that if you took a serious track guy and gave him the keys to that 'egg and told him to drive it at his limits, in that situation, he would either not do it or just do a parade lap.
Physics, economics, and the will to live dictate that track driving is *all* about control of oneself, control of the car, and a very intimate understanding of the physics involved. A guy like that wouldn't be allowed on a well run track for two seconds and at best would have *one* chance with a brave instructor to redeem himself before becoming persona non grata with the organization for life.
Generally speaking, the people surrounding you on a race track in the United States at an event run by a reputable organization are very good and aware drivers - much more so than what you get on a typical public street. Heck, many of the cars have two drivers (cars with instructors).
Are there risks? Sure. It's an individual choice, but to classify this *** clownery on both the part of the driver and the venue with *all* well organized track events is simply unfair.
-Mike
#28
With all due respect VR, I call BS on this.
Would you really want someone with that guy's mentality on the track with you?
This is caused by driving over your head, not poor venue choice. And I see a ton of videos from DE and club races that show people driving past their abilities. Then I see posts about people who die at driving events, even though they have all or most of the safety gear they should have, and often aren't even going that fast when they crash. I fail to see how it's worth it.
Until driving on track is about being in control of yourself, your car, and to the best of your ability the situation around you, and not about goosing yourself with adrenaline, or telling stories about how you "almost lost it" while driving too fast to learn much from it.
The track looks like fun, I'll get there someday. But it sure as hell won't be to be safe, because between going that fast, and being surrounded by people who get off on the risk factor specifically, or just don't know how to stay this side of their own competence, I don't see how it's possible with the current culture, much less the reality of physics.
Would you really want someone with that guy's mentality on the track with you?
This is caused by driving over your head, not poor venue choice. And I see a ton of videos from DE and club races that show people driving past their abilities. Then I see posts about people who die at driving events, even though they have all or most of the safety gear they should have, and often aren't even going that fast when they crash. I fail to see how it's worth it.
Until driving on track is about being in control of yourself, your car, and to the best of your ability the situation around you, and not about goosing yourself with adrenaline, or telling stories about how you "almost lost it" while driving too fast to learn much from it.
The track looks like fun, I'll get there someday. But it sure as hell won't be to be safe, because between going that fast, and being surrounded by people who get off on the risk factor specifically, or just don't know how to stay this side of their own competence, I don't see how it's possible with the current culture, much less the reality of physics.
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